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Hi. I love B'Wave. I have been toying with some variations in the presentation. I use the blank cards version. However, I have written "Good", "Slim", and "None" on the blank faces. At the end, I talk about the odds of them naming one of the other Queens and I turn over the first card as I say the odds were "good", then turn over the next blank card as I say really their odds were "slim" and of course, by the last card, they went from "slim to none".

I also have a gimmicked packet trick holder where I can hide cards. People always want to "touch" the magic. I always just continue with something else and that works fine, but I would really like to switch out the gimmick card for a regular card, along with the three blank face cards, and do another routine.

Any thoughts on a routine with three blank cards (with "good", "slim", and "none") and a regular Queen?

I could do a variation of twisting the Aces.

Any other ideas?

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Check out John Bannon's Duplicity.
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Thanks Steven, I'm not familiar with it. I'll check it out.
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Steven,

Hi. I checked out the trailer, and it's pretty self-explanatory for a magician. This seems like a very good approach to the B'Wave plot, given it doesn't use any gimmicked cards. The trade off is it requires two packets.

I suppose I could put the four cards back in the packet holder all face down and remove what is apparently the same packet of cards from the same side plus a second packet from the other side of the packet trick holder. The only problem is I have one ungimmicked card on each side of the packet trick holder to replace either of the two selections they make, and how I place the B'Wave cards back in the holder depends upon which card they selected.

I was hoping for something that involves only four cards, apparently the same cards from the B'Wave routine, thus acting as a further convincer for the previous effect.

KJ
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KJ -- What are you using for a packet trick holder?
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You can do B'Wave with four normal cards with the ambiguities used in Duplicity.
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There are other "B'Wave"-type tricks that are good takes on the concept, like:

Dream Queen

Choose Your Queen
*(And the trick comes with, actually plays out of a holder) Smile

Not to mention that there are many ways to use the basic concept of Magician's Choice in card magic. Smile
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I've often wondered why a gaff card is necessary at all in B'wave. Since equivoque (magician's choice) is used to get you halfway there, why not use it again to get you all the way there?

Hopefully that wasn't too cryptic. If you can use it to force the desired color, why not use it again to force the desired suit? Maybe a bit of a tradeoff, but then you could end 100% clean and examinable, which is pretty strong.
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On Jun 25, 2017, karnak wrote:
I've often wondered why a gaff card is necessary at all in B'wave. Since equivoque (magician's choice) is used to get you halfway there, why not use it again to get you all the way there?

Hopefully that wasn't too cryptic. If you can use it to force the desired color, why not use it again to force the desired suit? Maybe a bit of a tradeoff, but then you could end 100% clean and examinable, which is pretty strong.


Because after the first spectator's choice, there's a 50% chance you won't be able to be consistent in how you deal with it ...

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I agree with Mark. Doing two 50/50 equivoques in a row calls too much attention to the method.
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Alain Nu has a gimmick free method that I like.
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KJ -- What are you using for a packet trick holder?


Hi. I just use the vinyl packet holders that I gimmicked. PM me if you would like more info.

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On Jun 25, 2017, karnak wrote:
I've often wondered why a gaff card is necessary at all in B'wave. Since equivoque (magician's choice) is used to get you halfway there, why not use it again to get you all the way there?

Hopefully that wasn't too cryptic. If you can use it to force the desired color, why not use it again to force the desired suit? Maybe a bit of a tradeoff, but then you could end 100% clean and examinable, which is pretty strong.


you might like Bannon's duplicity. It is a B'Wave type plot without gimmicks. It doesn't use two equivoques in a row. It's not the right one for me in this circumstance because I am happy with the original Max Maven B'Wave. I'm looking for a followup routine that ends "cleaner".

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I'm not sure how your "slim to none" thing would help B'wave, when the best thing about it is it's minimalism. You might be bored with it, but it is astonishing to non magicians. And the gaff makes the equivoque appear less forced.
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Hi Mr. Dave,

Is there a performance clip for your "Distorted Siblings"?

Thank you,
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As for hidden compartments in packet trick wallets, check these out ? Although it would be pretty straight forward to make your own 'compartment' in the standard issue vinyl wallets I'd think ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Card-Wallet-for-......38.l2649
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Hi Mr. Dave,

Is there a performance clip for your "Distorted Siblings"?

Thank you,
Sixten Smile


Not yet. I am working on it along with a few other projects.
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Thanks for the reply. Smile
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On Jul 21, 2017, fonda57 wrote:
I'm not sure how your "slim to none" thing would help B'wave, when the best thing about it is it's minimalism. You might be bored with it, but it is astonishing to non magicians. And the gaff makes the equivoque appear less forced.


I totally agree with this. I ran B'Wave in a bar last week and it left people astonished. Now admittedly some were more inebriated than others, but...don't fix what ain't broke.
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