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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
That has set off a bunch of ideas for me.
Again, thanks tons. Justification. The mentalist biggest hurdle lol.
Look for all the world like you're counting the brain cells in his cranium.
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
(Was responding to Martin Pullman)
Look for all the world like you're counting the brain cells in his cranium.
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Martin Pulman Inner circle London 3399 Posts |
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On Oct 4, 2017, 252life wrote: Ha! Exactly. Of course, sometimes the solution is to not bother with justifications and just get them to do what you tell them to do. |
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swood Loyal user 299 Posts |
For me it's not about justification (though I agree with what you're saying). That's almost a bonus. I think the story tie-in (both the birthday celebration and the horoscope in newspaper, which I really like) has a lovely theatricality to it, which to me is entertaining. I think there might be more to come on this!
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
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On Oct 4, 2017, Martin Pulman wrote: That is so true in my experience. I think I could walk a pink unicorn out at this point, and keep a straight face. (Off topic for a second- Just started listening to the Paul Brook podcast again. I wholeheartedly recommend it.)
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swood Loyal user 299 Posts |
Paul's a smart guy and always worth listening to.
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3243 Posts |
Agreed. Have all of his books.
Paul kind of stays under the radar, like Scott Creasy. Scott's another guy that impresses me. Anyway, didn't mean to side jack the thread lol
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swood Loyal user 299 Posts |
I don't know much of Scott's work but a few people have recommended him. Once I complete the next project, if I ever get some time (!) I'll check his work out. Thanks for the tip!
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bond19 Inner circle Blackpool, England 1338 Posts |
Hi gang,
My preorder copy of IS3 has not arrived yet (I’m in the UK). Anyone else in the UK still waiting? Pete has confirmed it has shipped, but I don’t want to hassle him again (he’s full on at home at the moment) so I thought I’d ask here first. |
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swood Loyal user 299 Posts |
If you send me your name and address I can help look into it.
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bond19 Inner circle Blackpool, England 1338 Posts |
Thanks swood, I’ve PM’d you my details
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singhal5 New user 47 Posts |
Swood, I have PM’d you my details as well! Thanks!
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Rolyan Special user I'm fencing in my land; so far there are 590 Posts |
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On Oct 4, 2017, Adam Hince wrote: Hi Adam - my comment wasn't directed at anybody in particular, it was more a reflection on the demand for instant gratification we see so often nowadays. |
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Rolyan Special user I'm fencing in my land; so far there are 590 Posts |
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On Oct 4, 2017, _frankiefourfingers wrote: I bought the book, from a dealer. Is it a pipe dream? No. Is it really possible? Yes. Can anyone do it? No (it takes a certain style of performance, and a certain amount of experience). Is it 100%? No (nothing is, and propless less so). Is it a high enough percentage to use? Yes, but depends on your own criteria. Can it be used professionally? Yes. Walk Around? Yes. Stage? Yes. Will everyone be willing to use it in those circumstances? No. Is there a process? Yes, of course there is. Is it difficult to learn? No, but its not easy either, fortunately there is some work involved. Can an experienced performer run with this process? Yes. Could a beginner? Less likely. Is it 'typical' Pete Turner? Yes. Is it the best thing since sliced bread? No. Is there hype? Yes, like all effects released nowadays, by all performers, and all dealers, via digital media nowadays. Do you need experience to read through the hype? Unfortunately yes. So could beginners be 'caught out' by the hype? Yes, just like they always have been, going back decades when all advertising was printed material. Who is it for? Those who like Pete Turner, or propless, or mentalism as a study, etc. Who isn't it for? Card magicians. Or coin workers. Or girls (perhaps not the last one, I made that up). Do they think of a name, a date of birth and a star sign, and you name them? Yes. How long does it take? A minute or 2, approximately. Is there a full uncut performance? Not without purchasing the book, propless requires a process, if it was available, people would just copy it. Does Pete have a lot of hype? Yes, the same as Harry Lorayne, Slydini, Farser Parker, Bob Cassidy, Atlas Brooking, etc etc etc. Deal with it. Does that hype mean that the material is not workable? Of course not, it just means that beginners can be caught out until they learn. I think that's everything. Let me know if there's a specific question you need answering, and I will if I can, without methods, modus operandi etc. |
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Magidoc New user 89 Posts |
Nice review, Rolyan. Simple and to the point. Much appreciated
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Caliban Special user 727 Posts |
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On Oct 4, 2017, _frankiefourfingers wrote: Well, I'm not a mate of Pete's or over familiar with his previous work, but I think Isabella's Star 3 is very good. It's certainly entirely workable. The effect is this. First the spectator thinks of their star sign and you reveal it. Then you have them think of a man's name as well as their birthday, and you reveal both. Obviously, I haven't included every detail of the process. The name revelation is slightly more involved than just asking them to "think of any name", but the whole sequence is direct and it makes perfect sense to the spectator. The star sign reveal (which Peter has published before) and the revelation of the thought of name can both be performed as stand-alone effects, as well as being integral parts of the full routine. A link to uncut performances is provided with the book, but I don't think it has been made available to non purchasers. The routine is not difficult, though a bit of memory work is required, such as remembering which star signs go with which months. It may well be a piece that can only really be learned by doing it for real people, as it would be difficult to practice parts of the sequence on yourself. You need someone to react to. I will probably start by performing just the star sign section and getting comfortable with that first before I add the rest. |
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Caveman Regular user 118 Posts |
The star sign reveal is the same as one Peter has previously published? If I already own all of Peter's work on star sign revelations does it make sense to get this if I'm only interested in the star sign portion of the routine?
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Michael Zarek Special user Sweden 923 Posts |
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On Oct 5, 2017, Caveman wrote: The star sign reveal has been published before.
Reader discretion is advised.
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Caliban Special user 727 Posts |
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On Oct 5, 2017, Caveman wrote: If you are only interested in the star sign part, then probably not. This is about how he has taken an existing star sign reveal and combined it with other things. The full routine is very strong, though. It's a realistic method for revealing the spectator's exact birthday. If you already know the star sign part, you have a definite head start in learning it, because it's expanding on techniques you already know. |
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Caveman Regular user 118 Posts |
I have no doubt that this is a good routine. But, when I heard that this was to be Peter's final word on the star sign revelation plot I had sincerely hoped that this was a new method. Just for me personally, neither a name reveal or even an exact birthday reveal carry the same weight as showing a spectator that based on the limited interaction you've had with them you know what their star sign is. Its a very intimate detail when coupled with cold reading techniques. Anyways, I know Peter said this would be his last word on the plot, but I sure wouldnt be upset if Peter changed his mind!
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