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slowkneenuh Regular user After 5,278+ posts, only credited with 133 Posts 
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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Music in general has become cheap. Our society consumes music the same way that it consumes fast food. Pick it up, consume without attention, throw it away. Repeat.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1777 Posts
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This generation places no value on music.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On Jun 27, 2017, arthur stead wrote: I have to say that isn't my experience here in NYC--I work with teenagers most days and music is a huge part of their lives.
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts
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On Jun 27, 2017, landmark wrote: This is part of what I was getting at. It's valued, but in a "cheapened" sort of way. Music is everywhere, all the time. It has--for better or for worse--lost its elevated status as experience.
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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Ahh, the good ol days.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1777 Posts
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On Jun 27, 2017, landmark wrote: I was talking about a monetary value. |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts
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Allan Bloom, in his controversial book Closing of the American Mind, claimed that young people are "addicted" to popular music.
What he meant, I think, is that young people find music disproportionately important in their daily activities, but they are looking for a "fix" rather than learning to enjoy the more erotic subtleties of a music that has to be understood with practice and work. He was claiming that Mozart is superior to, say, Taylor Swift for the purpose of...say...improving the soul. So, back in the day, one of my philosophy professors was talking about Bloom and attacked him by saying that Clapton proved that Bloom was wrong, because Clapton demonstrated a subtlety of tone and expression and...yes..soul improvement that was equal to that of Mozart. The debate rages on! |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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On Jun 27, 2017, arthur stead wrote: Agreed about the monetary value. But that is largely a function of the mechanisms of capitalism, not young people. Technology has made music much more available. Hence the actual musician is less valued. Much the same has happened in writing where every two-bit Magic Café poster can have his own blog to spout his musings, memories, and magic. Meanwhile free-lance writers are having a very difficult time cobbling together a living. But that said, the aesthetic standards and inventiveness (adjusting for Sturgeon's law, of course) are as high as ever. Same with magic as well, in my opinion.
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts
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In Werner Herzog's movie, "Cave of Forgotten Dreams", we see a flute that's 10's of thousands of years old that plays a complete scale. The flute has undergone many variations, but it's still around. Yes, guitars, music, ... just about everything is commodified in today's world. And who knows how the electric guitar will fare 50 years from now? As far as the guitar market, the folk music boom of the late 50's was a huge boost to the guitar itself; and as I recall, this replaced the piano as being the "instrument in the house". But the piano is still there (in many permutations), and very much needed in several categories of TODAY's music. We'll never know the name of that flute player from 40,000 years ago; but I do appreciate the fact that this musician was around so long ago. Lynn
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Tom Cutts Staff Northern CA 5931 Posts
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For there to be death, there must be life. What the article in the OP supposes to be the "life" of "the guitar" is actually just the gross over commercialization for profit. It is NOT the life of the guitar. It is something entirely different. And that something isn't suffering a secret death. It is just going through a natural financial phase of business. A business which over predicts its potential and over extends itself at the expense of its creditors.
The guitar is none of that. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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It is only the action that really matters – if there is no action then it is as dead as that parrot in Monty Python.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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"Never listen to electric guitar"
1979
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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lynnef Inner circle 1407 Posts
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Related to the point about "over predicting its potential"; now is a good time to actually buy an electric guitar if you're thinking of seriously taking it up. A little caviat however... there is a LOT of product out there; so take a player along to help you evaluate your needs!!! btw Tom Cutts' post about going through a financial phase was spot on. Right now, there is a boom in sales of ukulele's at least here in the US; and who knows why?? Lynn
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Once upon a time I owned a good electric guitar, that was once owned a by a star, as I recall it was a base guitar, which I gave away to a friend who was in is a group. In my hands, the guitar, it was rather a noise than a musical instrument. Running a gaming house as I do, one ends up with a lot of “junk”. One will find a lot of guitars for sale, pawned, in Vas Vegas, going cheap.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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arthur stead Inner circle When I played soccer, I hit 1777 Posts
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On Jun 29, 2017, lynnef wrote: Because of this: |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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That's what I thought, too. Yay, Grace!
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts
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The ukelele thing happened a number of years before that. She's a result, not a cause.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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She's great, but Brian Justin Crum was robbed.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts
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