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FalseDeal
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What say you Gambling Spot? Is this guy legit or full of it? For those not in the know, Oldschoolorp on Instagram posted many things about being a "high line" card worker including this piece recently:

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Some of my following requested I do a post on my first meeting Cardini -- here it is. Artanis (my first high line teacher) & I were very close at this point & we drove to Brooklyn to Eddie Balduc I'm house because he had to meet Dai Vernon there. Ann who was Eddie's wife cooked us a special dinner & afterwards Vernon asked me if I would do some card work for him. Now I was a young kid at this time & had only met Vernon once before at age 9 or 10 when I completely fooled him with the classic 3 shell game. Artanis gave me the nod so I did some King work & he simply could not believe it -- he immediately jumped up, went to the phone & called the legendary Richard Cardini, this was a weeknight about 9. Everyone could hear him & he said to Cardini that he just saw the greatest card handling of his entire life & you have got to see this kid. Now I clearly remember being extremely embarrassed by this because Artanis who was one of the greatest King workers who ever lived could hear everything. Vernon was practically shouting into the phone. He gets off, comes over to me & asks if I would like to meet Cardini. I said sure. Richard was an idol of mine since babyhood & I was aware of Cardini's & Scott's meeting in 1930, & wanted to know how my work compared to Scott's when he was at the height of his game, -- the only thing was I was in super stroke with the Kings but probably only dealt a few thousand ' duces' in the last week or so, so was not in stroke at all & knew I only had this one shot to impress Richard -- so the pressure I felt was tremendous, I can assure you of that. As soon as Artanis & I were safely in his car ( we were to follow Vernon in his car to Cardini's ) I told him to please don't even speak to me & got out my cards, put the peg work on, & for the entire time it took us to get to Cardini's house, -- about 40 min. practiced my duce work. What happened next truly helped to solidify me as a living legend & was the start of one of the most beautiful friendships that I have ever known. To Be Cont...Orp.
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What happened next truly helped to solidify me as a living legend...........Orp.


"If you have to say you is - you ain't".
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I'm skeptical, however he does tick a couple of key boxes. Firstly if Bill Kalush thinks highly of him that gives credence to his skills. I've heard he does a number of moves well. But as for the history aspect...well let's just say I would take it with a grain of salt.
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On Jul 2, 2017, Artie Fufkin wrote:

"If you have to say you is - you ain't."


Ho Ho Ho...that is not original. I researched it. It was first penned by Shakespeare.

Isn't this called, "plagiarism?" Smile
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One thing I will say is...it's a lot of fun to read!
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I recall him teaching me the Lota Bowl Switch.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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On Jul 2, 2017, Artie Fufkin wrote:

"If you have to say you is - you ain't."


Ho Ho Ho...that is not original. I researched it. It was first penned by Shakespeare.

Isn't this called, "plagiarism?" Smile


Plagiarism indeed!

I lifted it from the esteemed Mr.Z - who used to post to this very forum and used it as his "sig".
Mr.Z lifted it from Jimmy Hoffa (who used it regularly) ... and Hoffa may indeed may have usurped it from The Bard Smile

Most importantly though, it's a statement that has proven time and time again that it's 100% accurate.
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Yes, but does the corollary apply here: "If you DON'T have say you is, does that mean you am?"
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Yes, but does the corollary apply here: "If you DON'T have say you is, does that mean you am?"


It usually means exactly that Smile
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On Jul 3, 2017, Cagliostro wrote:
Yes, but does the corollary apply here: "If you DON'T have to say you is, does that mean you am?"


It usually means exactly that Smile


That's what I like best about the Gambling Spot...there is always something new and valuable to learn.
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Seems legit, a lot of well respected magicians seem to know him
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He is a magician, not a player/cheater?
He knew Erdnase?
Cardini was a gay?
(hohoho)
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I thought he was more a player/cheater than magician?
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In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used in an attempt to shift the burden of proof.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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How can people buy that crap? Aren't Magicians fed up of all those old stories, like Erdnase or Walter Scott?

By the way, did I tell you that I learned card Magic through live sessions with Hofzinser and Blackstone? I cheated in a game where I took £25,000,000 from Winston Churchill and all casinos in Las Vegas call me the Phantom.

Some Magicians are really gullible. I'd like to see what that Joe Crist is capable of, really!
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...By the way, did I tell you that I learned card Magic through live sessions with Hofzinser and Blackstone? I cheated in a game where I took £25,000,000 from Winston Churchill and all casinos in Las Vegas call me the Phantom...


Wow, I didn't know that. Seems like you are holding back on us Arnold.

Even Dan Madison can't make a claim like that. Smile
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Joe Cris should be about 77 now?
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So he's writing a book and being interviewed by Jon racherbaumer. Sounds intrresting
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All the people I know who could see him reported he has nothing exceptional. At all.

But, again, when, like many Magicians, you still live mentally in 1902, I understand that a second deal might look impressive. Me, I live in 2017. I'm gonna need a lot more than a few gossips and a long name dropping to be impressed.

Did I tell you that I learned how to read Poker tells with Joseph Buatier De Kolta, perfected my shifts with Alexander Herrmann and that Steve Forte decided not to appear live anymore after watching one of my videos? Even Jason England decided to stop manipulate cards because of me. He now breeds dogs in a shack, in the desert. Jonnhy Carson offered $1,000,000 to interview me but I already refused $1,500,000 from Larry King. I'm so good they wanted to name a street after me in Las Vegas, place where I have never been. For my next book preface I'll display a few kind words Mark Twain said about me. And maybe, maybe, I'll report the legendary meeting between me and Dai Vernon in 1956. After it, he implored me not to go to the Magic Castle ever.
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Saloon poker is a throwback to the Wild West, never mind 1902 and the stakes are about the same. All they need to do in these pub comps now is dress up as cowboys and they will be back in Dodge City in the blink of an eye.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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