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“This is an interesting argument to our generation, now emerging from the assumption that private wealth is socially conservative in its effects. Ferguson and Millar believed the reverse; so did Adam Smith. Liberty, in their view, and the very search for liberty, need rich men, and not a few of them. And since not everybody can be rich, one may say that liberty needs inequality of condition in order to seek and achieve equality before the law. The less there is of one equality, they might have agreed, the more there is likely to be of the other. All political advances arise out of inequality, they believed, and George Orwell's contention in Animal Farm (1945) that equality of condition, or rather the search for it, naturally leads to despotism is one they would no doubt have been happy to endorse.”

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Https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/j......us-study

Not definitive of course, since it's still early.

At this point my question is, since legalization seems to be yielding positive results, both as to crime and treatment of some diseases, AND the majority of the public wants legalization; then why would anyone try to go backwards?

One of my consistent issues with ALL politicians I'd that they say the serve the will of the majority, yet they consistently ignore that will for various reasons.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politic......n-244155

64 percent, and growing, is an undeniable majority; so what can be their justification for denying the will of the people?
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Because politicians have never really cared what the will of the people is?
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Agreed, so what can the people do; especially given what's widely considered a corrupt system?
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Throw them ALL out. Even those you agree with "mostly". Wipe the slate clean.
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It's funny Danny that despite our "disagreements", we agree more than people might think.

I'd add that the lobbying laws must be changed; as well as the laws regarding corporate donations, super pacs etc.
Greed is a problem that's unlikely to go away any time soon.

Given everything that's gone on in the last few years, how do you feel about this Danny?
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Not the past few years, I'd say it has been a problem for a while.

I think yes money from PAC's, Unions and from corporations should be limited.
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I mean about legalization in general, given that we now have something to compare vs. strict illegality.
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I think the stories are tremendously skewed. It has been shown you actually lose IQ points, and the dangers of holding smoke in your mouth are very obvious. So it is not by any means all peaches and cream. It is far from a healthy choice to make and this much is clear.

But is it a society ending problem? Oh lord no. Adults make choices all the time that are not good for them that have NO help at all to society. Pot on some level can actually be beneficial medically. It being legal is not going to cause the downfall of America any time soon. We have other problems that will do it WAY before making pot legal will do it. Shifting money from a fictitious "war on pot" and putting it to actual use might do some real good.
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Throw them ALL out. Even those you agree with "mostly". Wipe the slate clean.

Pointless without a change in the system that allows them to function.
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Nonsense. It sends a clear message and can be done again
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... Shifting money from a fictitious "war on pot" and putting it to actual use might do some real good.


You're being rational (again Smile ) Smile
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Oops my bad.
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Because politicians have never really cared what the will of the people is?


The people who matter
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