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Just wanted to let you all know that I've recently written a book on collusion in Texas Hold'em, which focuses on the variety of strategies that may be employed and also offers some analysis on both preflop and postflop strategy choices.

Collusion Strategy and Analysis for Texas Hold'em is available from lybrary.com.


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Can anyone here review it?
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Congratulations on the release of your book Tom!
It's definitely an under represented topic in the available literature.
I look forward to reading it.

As an aside, reviews can be interesting depending on who the reviewer is, and may indeed help push a guy towards a purchase if he otherwise might be hesitating.
Often, in a field of interest as vertical and narrow as the one we discuss here in the forum, folks often have to bite the bullet and just put the book on their library shelf.

Considering that there's so little contemporary literature out there to begin with, I often purchase anything (on-topic) written by an author whose actual name, or whose online personality I'm familiar with.
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Thanks for the support Mr. Bones, it's very much appreciated.

I do agree that collusion in general is not well documented. Whilst the more well known strategies are mentioned in many places, it is often not in detail.

With this book I've tried to capture as many strategies as possible that relate to hold'em, and also do some maths to determine the type of strategy that would be most beneficial.

I hope you enjoy it Smile
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I wouldn't mind to review it, but, in all honesty, it's hard for me to buy a book from someone I don't know the background, experience, etc., in terms of actual play.

I already read a pamphlet from Tom and it was quite interesting, I admit it. But it was about "theory", if you forgive me that word. Here, collusion is something different. Hard to talk about it if you haven't played in brick and mortar places for a few years.
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Tom's previous writing was well put together and I enjoyed the read, so I have no hesitation in picking this up for some extra reading over the holiday season. Congratulations on the release Tom. I hope you move a truckload of them.
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Hi AMcD, I understand your reservations and I wouldn't expect you to buy anything from a source you don't trust.
I am also not offended by the word 'theory', as I think it very well describes the majority of my contributions to the subject of cheating at card games.
I do however wonder why collusion strategy in particular would be difficult to talk about from a theoretical perspective?
Legitimate strategy has been studied from a more academic view point quite extensively and I see collusion strategy as being an extension of this with the additional consideration of multiple players working together.


Also, chappy, thank you for the support, it means a lot Smile
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Well, true play is very different from when I practice while watching stupid videos on youtube.

For instance, there might be cameras around, preventing me to use signals I usually use with my partners. Maybe some players around the table are knowledgeable, and some signs won't be possible. And what about the environment? Maybe not enough light, maybe not noisy enough? Can we play that strategy with the money we have left? And so many other factors which you CAN'T know if you have never played.

If you knew me a bit, you would know that I'm not against theory, far from it! Just that, to me, experience should lead to theory. Not the opposite. So many brilliant theories did never pass live tests...

Now, if you talk about the best strategies to use once partners know each other cards, yes, there might be some interesting things to say. But you know, playing cousins or playing the best hand it everything but brand new Smile.

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm looking forward to read what others will say about your last release. Again I read one of your publication once, and there were many interesting points

But, if you allow me a few more words, as an author myself, I find it weird you don't follow the classic path in such circumstances. Normally, you show your work to experts, authorities and, in return, they fix some points, give reviews, etc. It helps a lot, I can tell you; in terms of quality (experts giving tips is invaluable for you, mainly because some of them are in that field for decades), in terms of sale (when someone "famous" give a fair and good review of your publication, many people follow his advice) and in terms of team work (working alone is good, but up to some extent only. A good network is always preferable. The more people you know, the more knowledgeable you'll get. Not to mention that you'll work faster).

Yes I know that my old friend Sal said a few (good) words about your work, I read them on the website you give in your post. I can tease him a bit, I know him for ages. Frankly "A must read for all poker players!", well, it's not very informative Smile.

Please, don't read more in my words than what I write above. I'm just giving you a few tips, nothing more!
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I see what you mean about signals and I should say that I felt signalling had been well documented, so I do not cover it in this work. However, given your comments about the environment it would certainly be interesting to see signals categorised based on the situation; for example visual signals vs light levels, verbal signals vs noise levels, electronic devices vs risk of discovery...

I also agree that there's very little that's new in terms of strategy, but what I hope to provide in this book is one place where as many of these techniques as I'm aware of are described. I have included a few of the more mundane, but important, strategies that you won't typically find spoken about elsewhere. I also try to give a bit more information about when each method should be used, rather than just a description of the fundamentals.
In the second part of the book I work towards determining the best choice amongst the more general strategies, which is not overly complex, but I feel is worth looking at for the implications it has on colluder game play.

Ideally, I would have a number of well-known authorities reviewing the work, but people are busy and my network is small. I was very happy that Sal was generous enough to take the time to read the book.
I'm not worried about selling large numbers, I only hope that those who do take the chance and purchase the manuscript, get something interesting out of it.
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I was very happy that Sal was generous enough to take the time to read the book.


As you should be Tom!

I've met and spoken with Sal numerous times, and am always impressed with the breadth of his knowledge and ease of which he shares what he knows, so to have Sal's recommendation in the front-piece of your book is major kudos to you and to your book project.
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Tom, it is an interesting subject and I will take a look at it.

Cheers,

Slim
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Thanks Slim, I hope you enjoy it!
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How about collusion detection...This link will allow you to download directly...enjoy !

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