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Many self-working tricks require an arrangement of the deck into a certain order. This may be applicable to the entire deck, or just a portion of the deck. Sometimes the performance of one trick leads into an arrangement that can be used in the following trick.

I have seen some card handlers simply arrange their deck for the next trick right in front of the spectators while pattering away at a mile a minute. I think that that undermines the power of the trick.

Does anyone have any tips on making an arrangement of cards for a trick while performing that does not look "fishy?"
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I don’t think there can be a simple answer to this question. It depends on what the setup needs to be, how elaborate it is, and the context of any actions taken. Also, weaving a setup into a presentation so that it can be accomplished in real time often requires a time compromise that not everyone is willing to make.
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Harry Lorayne is a Master at this.
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On Dec 24, 2017, magicfish wrote:
Harry Lorayne is a Master at this.


Do you have any references to find out more and to get some idea of what can be accomplished ?
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Foa a few cards (2-4), you can simply do it between tricks, while talking an toying with the cards.

Or you can learn the Hopfinzer spread cull technique (from Card College 1 by Roberto Giobbi for example) which can be used for setting up a small number of cards (say 3-6 cards).

For a larger number of cards (8-12 for example) Roberto Giobbi in his Card College 5 describes an easy method to go through the pack of cards during a trick and prepare your set up. It's actually an idea by Juan Tamariz.

In his book on the memorised deck Mnemonica, Tamariz describes various methods, some of which can be used in any occasion, not just in a memorised deck case.

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Goochelen: I taught the way I've done it for decades in both JAW DROPPERS ONE (sorry, sold out) and JAW DROPPERS TWO. (Obviously mlippo hasn't read either - oh well, his loss.)
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Goochelen: I taught the way I've done it for decades in both JAW DROPPERS ONE (sorry, sold out) and JAW DROPPERS TWO. (Obviously mlippo hasn't read either - oh well, his loss.)


Your comment about what I might've read or might have not is completely off subject, as at least 7000 of your posts on this forum.

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Really? I don't think so. We'll let others decide. It just seems to me that if someone is going to give advice that someone should know all that's available - otherwise his advice is INCOMPLETE.

And my 7000 posts were usually instigated by your 8000 posts about me and my opinions. Harry.
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Oh, and how can it be "off subject" when I teach exactly what is under discussion in a couple of my books - which I'm told (no way for me to know) are way up on the list of best-selling books in the magic fraternity. So, it seems to me that my comment has to be completely ON subject.
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Pointing out that in a few of your books the OP could find something to answer his question was quite legitimate. After all that's exaclty what I did, with the difference I did not write the books that I suggested.

Not having read either of the books you suggested (I can quite live with that, don't worry), I could not refer to them.
But your comment "Obviously mlippo hasn't read either - oh well, his loss.)", was - especially the last four words - completely useless and derogatory to my persona. Therefore off subject.


> "And my 7000 posts were usually instigated by your 8000 posts about me and my opinions. Harry."

I ain't reached 800 posts yet, so you're off by 10x at least.

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Nice of you to give me some legitimacy, thank you! And that's okay - I'll let you count the posts.

And why is it off subject when I state my opinion? You're stating your opinion re: which books the OP should read. And if he's to be helped my terrible ego certainly thinks that anyone advising him should have read my thoughts on the subject in my books.

So, again, in my opinion - If you're into card magic at all and you haven't read my books (and I certainly can happily live with that) IT IS YOUR LOSS. Call it ego (again) if you like - I really don't care. But it is definitely your loss. If that opinion is "completely useless and derogatory to your persona" I'm terribly sorry - but it doesn't at all make it "off subject." (Sorry, but what's off subject is most of your post/posts.)
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