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Hi

I currently own Svengali, Stripper and Invisible Decks.

I am curious as to what other gimicked decks people would recommend for a beginner with basic card handling ability (can shuffle and use an injog but not much more).

Many thanks
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A Mastermind (a.k.a. Monte Cristo) deck is easy to use, and packs quite a lot of wallop.
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On Jan 27, 2018, karnak wrote:
A Mastermind (a.k.a. Monte Cristo) deck is easy to use, and packs quite a lot of wallop.


Thanks, never come across this deck before. Will VerNe Google on it asap! Are there a lot of different tricks that can be performed with this?
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It can do Card to Impossible Location, Card at Any Number, and anything a regular forcing deck can do, while appearing completely normal when fanned.
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Is this the same as a mirage deck.
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Http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5573

Trying to tell work out what the difference is other than price. Cheers
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Different method altogether. Different type of gaff.

The Mirage Deck appears to blend features of Svengali and Invisible decks. The Mastermind deck does not.
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I started with a Svengali Deck, a matching Stripper Deck, A matching Regular Deck and a Scotch and Soda set. I knew maybe 15 card tricks with a regular deck (most being effects very common to laymen). So, from my standpoint, there is nothing wrong with starting this way. However, eventually I was being called out on some deck switches, I didn't handle audience management too well and lost the battle to some "grabby" laymen. Typical rookie mistakes.

Now, let me "flip the script" as a sort of "Devil's Advocate". "What are good gaffed decks for a beginner"? How about NONE??? Being a rookie has enough of it's own problems than working with gaffs and having to be VERY GOOD at audience management. I think the same beginner who stayed away from the gaffed decks (or at least only use one and save it for a closer or sneak it (in and out) in the middle with a well practiced deck switch. Take some time and learn a dozen or so "Self Working" card tricks and a dozed or so "impromptu" effects. Once you have these down, if the heat gets on your gaff deck or you have a difficult spectator, you can skip the gaff and entertain with an ordinary deck that can be passed out to the difficult spec if need be.

As I stated above, I started that way too but I think I would have been a better magician sooner if I had followed the advice I offer now. I also wonder how many agree with this logic after thinking back a few (to many) years?

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Hmm. Interesting take poof daddy.

My hope is to eventually split up the card tricks with magic of another kind. I'd like to do some coins or rings.

The routine I am working on would be normal deck - rings or coins - finishing with gimmicked deck. That being said, I do agree that it's better to limit use of gimmicks when it comes to cards as this forces you to improve on skill and sleight.
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I recoomend you to buy marked deck. if you can put your hands on andy nayman it is very good one. penguin also put out nice deck
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The ID was probably my first gaffed deck. When a pro did a Triumph effect I was seriously underwhelmed as I wrongly figured it was a modified ID. Oh the day when I saw Triumph again and realized it was a borrowed shuffled pack. ***Overload***. Hence my initial interest in card sleight of hand.
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I’m new and while I’ve bought some gimmicked decks to match my Phoenix normal decks, I have yet to use them. I focus on learning tricks/effects I like and the required slights to do those tricks/effects. I’m sure I will use the gimmicked decks at some point but for now it’s non-gimmicked tricks/effects (both full deck and packets).
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What about a brainwave deck? that's nice and easy to do.
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Many good thoughts here, though my personal opinion is if you are wanting a gimicked deck, go with either a Svengali or Stripper deck. Each one has multiple effects which can be performed, they are not a ‘one trick pony’ as are some of the others mentioned.
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Marked deck with a short card is all you ever need.
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Short card is all you need in a deck to have loads of fun. Also you won't get caught so easily with it
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On Jan 27, 2018, karnak wrote:
A Mastermind (a.k.a. Monte Cristo) deck is easy to use, and packs quite a lot of wallop.


I agree the Mastermind Deck is very good gaff deck.
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As I stated above, I started that way too but I think I would have been a better magician sooner if I had followed the advice I offer now. I also wonder how many agree with this logic after thinking back a few (to many) years?


I completely agree with Poof-Daddy (enough pressure being a rookie to be increased by the need of a switch); and also with the suggestion of using one corner-short (simple, discrete and powerful).
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On Jan 28, 2018, karnak wrote:
Different method altogether. Different type of gaff.

The Mirage Deck appears to blend features of Svengali and Invisible decks. The Mastermind deck does not.

A Mirage deck is just a special kind of Svengali deck. It adds rough/smooth to the standard Svengali concept, so that you can fan the cards and display the deck as a "normal" deck. Aside from that, it's the same as a Svengali.

While it uses a similar method as the Invisible deck, it is an altogether different beast.
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