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andrea.corelli
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OK, this is my first real issue. I am very good at memorizing data, numbers, words, concept, but I found out I am horrible at memorizing movements sequences. Especially when the moves are very similare one to another and even more when the part that the audience see is veritually identical, while you are doing something different each time. I think I have practiced Twisting The Aces 300 times now and still I am not at 100%. I master the sleights, and I am not guilty at all, no question: I just keep forgetting the sequence. It is very frustrating: any suggestion here is greatly appreciated.
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I do two things:

First, I back off and consider the whole, and where I am in context with it. You can get so myopic you forget where you are. Keeping the big picture in mind, rather than focusing on particular moves, definitely helps. (You should have the moves so down that you don't have to think about them.)

Second, with repeated things I memorize the main differences and the order they come in. E.g., with a sponge ball "two in the hand, one in the pocket" routine, I might memorize some sequence like: 1. pretend to put in pocket but steal second ball; 2. actually put ball in pocket; 3. put all three balls in pocket. Just memorizing the sequence of that one difference of what happens when my hand goes to my pocket keeps me on track.

That, and maybe you just need to do it 500 times. It will come when you are completely familiar with your material.
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I like the memorize difference. I will probably need to write it down and then memorize the sequence with the new code. Great suggestion, thanks!
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This probably sounds dumb (or crazy), but practice in the shower.

Not with your actual props, mind you. Just concentrate on making your hands go through all the motions - as if - the props are actually there.

There's something about water - for me, at least - that helps me commit things (moves, lines, etc) to memory.

Also, maybe take a break, work on something else, and then come back to what you're stumbling on later. Giving your mind some time to absorb what you're working on, a period of rest and recovery, often helps as well.
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Hummm... Not really sure about the shower, but thanks for suggesting, I will give it a try Smile
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Personally I tend to associate movements with script moments.

As I say X, I am doing Y. Eventually, saying X triggers an urge to do Y.
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Nice idea too. Thanks, I will try both and see what works best.
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In Eugene Burger's Dvd Close-Up Gourmet, He discusses scripting and movement in his explanation of
Card to Wallet. WhitchDocChris is spot on. Eugene Burger's (partial) script; My hand is empty, inside my back pocket is a wallet, inside my wallet is a card. Eugene matches scripting with execution. It helps with timing, process and smooth execution. The dvd is hard to find but available. It would be worth your time and money to pick up.
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Taking a break is definitely a good idea. Have a few days of practising something different and then come back to it. I think you’ll be surprised by how much easier you find it
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On Jan 31, 2018, davidpaul$ wrote:
In Eugene Burger's Dvd Close-Up Gourmet, He discusses scripting and movement in his explanation of
Card to Wallet. WhitchDocChris is spot on. Eugene Burger's (partial) script; My hand is empty, inside my back pocket is a wallet, inside my wallet is a card. Eugene matches scripting with execution. It helps with timing, process and smooth execution. The dvd is hard to find but available. It would be worth your time and money to pick up.


Sounds extremely interesting, but from a quick research it looks like there is no DVD version available. The few copies that are still around are VHS only and I have no way to see it unfortunately. Any thoughts?
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One other small suggestion: if you can, see if you can track down the book, "A Book of Magic for Young Magicians: The Secrets of Alkazar," by the great Allen Kronzek.

There's a chapter in there on creating patter (scripting) for an effect, and the way he advises laying out a script in conjuction with what should be done.

It's helped me quite a bit. And the book is currently $6.20 on Amazon. You may never find a better bargain, anywhere, for anything. The entire book is outstanding.
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On Jan 31, 2018, willtupper wrote:
One other small suggestion: if you can, see if you can track down the book, "A Book of Magic for Young Magicians: The Secrets of Alkazar," by the great Allen Kronzek.


Sounds very interrsting, thanks!
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