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Fero Loyal user 294 Posts |
I haven’t received the gimmick yet but from the download is nothing like elastic, scotch tape or whatever..... this gimmick is original for what I know, easy to use and everything looks so natural. For whoever complains about the price I want just to say that I ve never bought a trick where the value of the gimmick can be related to the price I payed. That’s because you buy the secret, the method and the work behind it.
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Steven Conner Inner circle 2720 Posts |
I don't particularly care for the method of shuffling but would not work in my venues, but the the trick and effect is very clever.
Best Steve
"The New York Papers," Mark Twain once said,"have long known that no large question is ever really settled until I have been consulted; it is the way they feel about it, and they show it by always sending to me when they get uneasy. "
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tmoca Inner circle 1113 Posts |
Can the gimmick securely hold a smaller block, like 7, without fear of sliding out?
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Drtriage Elite user My garden fence has 463 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2018, tmoca wrote: No. In the instructional video he is clear that it is for 13 cards. |
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2018, tmoca wrote: You can control 7 cards just as easily and without error as you can 13. Sometimes I control only 10 (American phone number) all the time Mark Calabrese |
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2018, Drtriage wrote: To clarify: you CAN control less than 13 cards. But lets say you were to control only 7 cards you would need 6 x cards in the gimmick so it stays tight |
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Drtriage Elite user My garden fence has 463 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2018, jf4viva wrote: I'm a bit confused - IH the video you pack out the 10 cards for the phone with additional jacks to make 13 and you also comment in the video that the dimensions are designed for 13 cards. I've still to experiment with it. |
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Drtriage Elite user My garden fence has 463 Posts |
You managed to clarify and answer my question just as I was posting it !!
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tmoca Inner circle 1113 Posts |
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On Feb 13, 2018, jf4viva wrote: Makes sense. Thanks |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Here's my honest review.
I think this is a very clever idea by Mark. Will I use it? Yes. Often? No. I don't generally like carrying gaffs in my deck. I've nothing opposed, it's just a personal preference. I will carry a gaff to ring in or out if there's no equally efficient way accomplish the same thing. In this case, for me, the effect can be equated with non-gaffed methods. Mark addresses this, and his reasons for developing the gaff. So, why did I buy it? Curiosity, mostly. I'll certainly use it on occasion to fool a specific group or person that's perhaps wise to cards and technique. Otherwise, the non-gaffed approach is simply better for me. That will not be true for everyone. It's a matter of taste and preference. My one real problem with this really has nothing to do with Mark. The effect, if you use it, is more than worth the cost. But, in my instance, it was poorly made. For the cost, I would expect a simple gimmick to be put together right. The cards that make up mine are put together misaligned and, therefore don't square with the pack. Can I fix this easily? Yes. That's not the point. It's the principle of the thing. I paid for a gimmick that I think could have, quite easily, been put together carefully for better quality.
It's all in the reflexes.
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
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On Feb 15, 2018, Illucifer wrote: I appreciate your honest review. In regards to the gimmick, these were hand made by someone penguin hired to fabricate over 1800 pieces and I cannot quality check every single one of them. I assume if there were any that were made poorly or had any defects, that Penguin will take care of it and send you a new one. If you don’t mind can you send me a private message with pictures just so I can see exactly what you mean? If I can help in any way I will. I do talk about how the gimmick needs to be broken in so it meshes well with the deck, and that’s only because the gimmick is made of playing card material and therefore will mold to the deck correctly. If penguin can’t help in any or for some reason won’t help, please contact me and I will personally help you out in whatever way I can. That includes sending you a gimmick hand made by me. Mark Calabrese |
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Illucifer Inner circle 1403 Posts |
Mighty kind of you, Mark. And let me say again for anyone reading this thread, this is a great little stealth utility device that will let you do some very Green-esque shuffling very easily. I’ll definitely be giving it a test drive in the real world.
It's all in the reflexes.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1849 Posts |
What I like about this concept is that it allows you to ring in packet trick effects causing the cards to seemingly come from the deck in play.
I believe I would like to have two of these in the deck so that the spectator and I can turn over the exact same cards at the same time. With that in mind you could have one in the deck and one in your pocket which provides for a packet of cards to be switched.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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ABREWCADABREW New user Tokyo, Japan 15 Posts |
I got mine yesterday and I love this! Fits my style perfectly. When I got it and first opened it, I dropped the gimmick and spent way longer than I thought I would trying to find it - that's how inconspicuous it is. A whole slew of possibilities in my case. Will it suit everybody? Of course not. But for someone like me who does a handful of "shuffling demonstration"-type tricks, it's perfect.
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The Duster Inner circle 1693 Posts |
I wasn’t sure whether to post this – as the creator seems so caustic towards both TMC and any negative comments
Which I don’t really understand Briefly [on that point] – if you are on here to sell, you have to be the ‘better person’ – so if someone says something bad or wrong – you need to be polite and explain why you think they are not correct. If you lay into them or the café/users… or keep going and make it into a war... it just makes you the creator look bad. Also 'being angry' about this place shines too heavy a light on why you are on here, at the moment, conversing with all these dreaded people you obviously have such low regard for. I’ve seen other creators make this mistake – but you seem to ‘throw your rattles out of the pram’ too easily - you just need to relax and be the better person... heck these idiots are talking about something you have brought out... just think about that - and it's easy to be the better person. A sort of review. I didn’t buy Super Shuffle System by Mark Calabrese but a friend did [who is a magician – he won some Magic Circle Cabaret award for what it is worth] and we watched this together Yep that is as romantic as my Valentine's week got He saw it through ‘magician’s’ eyes, I was looking at how it would work for some mentalism type effects I’m mulling over There are multiple performance videos – which is nice. I think most releases people complain that there are no performances at all on them... Now it’s almost exactly the same presentation. Which watching them one after the other [unlike in real life only seeing it once] isn’t easy viewing. But that is not Mark's fault. He put 4 performances up. I guess it's churlish to complain about it being repeatitive when many projects don't put even one perfomance video in the package. It was funny to see the mentions to Jinx in this thread. As it felt like to me, that this project, would have been in a magazine back in the old days. That was exactly what it felt like this project would have been [had it been released 25+ years ago] I think this seems to be more for fooling other magicians – a lot of single cards seem to [occasionally] fly out – maybe as they connected with the bank/gimmick [?] the shuffles may seem ‘more fair’ to magicians… but boy are you running [when not chased] when your presentation is that other shuffles don’t mix the pack well and that’s why casinos do… casinos do what ? The Karate Kid shuffle [?] – err no what Mark doesn't say is what they actually do – they would do a wash… which of course you can’t do with this device. Argh. So not only have you said other shuffles don’t mix well [why would you say that for the love of god???] you then have anyone who goes to casinos now expecting a wash… Mark ‘if you’re not happy, than I’m not happy’ – is that a catch phrase [?] it felt a little annoying the first time, but it’s unfair to you – as we see four performances in a row – so although it really begins to grate... that is only because we see the four versions in one sitting. If it is a catch phrase – and not just in this routine – it may be annoying. I think it capsulated what Eugene Burger didn’t like in modern magicians. Not that I agree with him – as I love a magician that is funny above all other factors [but that's just me] I will try and sum up – as this is going on too long. I didn’t like this product [for what I want to do with it] because it seems designed to fool other magicians. Real card work [false shuffles/etc] will work just as well – actually better on non-magicians. But if you want a magician to be fooled – this might just be the product. I'm not really all that keen on extended shuffle procedure [where you are getting the spec to 'do what you do'] I’m glad I didn’t buy it – for myself My magician friend is happy with it – but he’s ONLY using it for competitions/shows to magicians – and I think he’s correct as that is where the value of this mostly sits I repeat he's happy with it. He's a happy customer. Personally I think the phone number routine – is a waste of pre-show work… AND a waste of the gimmick. Because you leave the spec with an effect that can ONLY be done by having a stack that you controlled. It's too perfect. I guess that's magic, and that's why it doesn't sit well with me. Personally I would control the stack – and now give them 10 – 13 random cards [the stack] and they have seen the deck shuffled, and I am so far in front of the audience [as they have no clue I know all the cards they have]... this would be a much better effect for me But without all the extended audience shuffling So I do like that I just won’t buy this – as the shuffling looks wrong. Only to me I am sure. It actual might seem less fair because it’s so unusual. Oh and there are so many places it could go wrong, just because the specs don’t seem too sure what is expected of them [Karate Kid shuffle, etc] So I will stick to false shuffles or deck switches - but I'm not the traget audience If you are interested in a gimmick that means you can do shuffles/etc that other magicians will think are NOT false [and there's no way you have done anything to control a stack] - then this seems to be right for you Final note - at the begining I thought having the Jokers 'in the deck' was stupid. But then later on - I thought it was clever thinking Easy way end perfectly - 'oh I will just take the jokers out' - wouldn't work for me in anyway... but just showed how I was wrong to start with I hope this wasn't too mean? Mark are you happy with this? because if you are happy with it then so am I. |
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jf4viva Veteran user 323 Posts |
I made a mistake. I said I posted a performance video from the download and I forgot to. Here is that video.
https://youtu.be/C3V0no-9Kg8 Mark Calabrese |
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rnaviaux Loyal user 287 Posts |
Great effect! Good stuff Mark.
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KyleLeon New user Ottawa, ON 25 Posts |
I find this gimmick to be kinda unnecessary. The Shuffle-bored routine with piles face up and face down does not require this gimmick at all. The fact that the participant is going to turn piles over and shuffle them into one another is more than enough chaos and randomness that an initial chaotic shuffle at the beginning using the gimmick is, in my opinion, unnecessary.
When I do Shuffle-bored, I simply start with the stack (I use about 24 cards or so) set up on top of the deck. Then I have 4 participants involved in the initial shuffling sequence. I will cut off half of my stack and hand that to one participant, then cut off the rest of my stack and hand that to a second participant. Then split the remainder of the deck (cards that don't matter) in half and hand each half to two other participants. I have them all shuffle their cards. Then I have participants 1 and 2 (who each have half of the stack) to combine their piles and shuffle them together and table them when done. Then have the other two do the same with their piles. From there I go into making the piles and begin the effect with the face up and face down shuffling procedure. This is so simple and more than enough shuffling and participation require for this killer effect. Even just showing the deck from the onset all shuffled (with you stack on top) and mention that in a moment, the participant will get to shuffle them and just go right into it has never been an issue for anyone who does Shuffle-bored. I don't believe that what this gimmick provides, at least in this effect, adds any extra deception or fairness to the chaos of the effect. |
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dirtyfoucault Special user UK 679 Posts |
Late to the party on this, but having received my copy I really struggle to understand the negativity this received. It's brilliant thinking and the most free, fair way of protecting a stack within a wash shuffle that I've come across. The fact the spectator can shuffle the entire deck (apparently) means there'll never be any backtracking. It may seem a little expensive at first, but this is a utility I assume you'll be able to replace yourself many times over. Very happy with this. Great release.
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