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I do John Carey’s version but use Jon Armstrong’s handling to show the 5 cards.

Patrick Kun has a nice version on his 2nd At The Table lecture. You can see him perform it in the trailer below.

https://youtu.be/SkA2oSWkyTo
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On Mar 1, 2018, magico wrote:

Patrick Kun has a nice version on his 2nd At The Table lecture. You can see him perform it in the trailer below.

https://youtu.be/SkA2oSWkyTo


Clever!
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I love the Biddle trick! It always packs a punch and has a lot of magic in it. I can’t immediately find Johnny Thompson’s perfomance on YT though, if it’s on there could someone please point me in the right direction?
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Don't care for John Armstrong's version. But I do think his tip on doing the Biddle Move is very good.
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Hi folks,


I'm not sure what happened -- either I got busy or some messages didn't come to me until recently -- but I haven't thanked people for some really good ideas. (And here's what reminded me of this thread: I saw its title on the web, and thought, Oh, interesting, someone else is interested in developing an effective performance of the Biddle Trick. And then I saw that It was me!)


Anyway, here are some long overdue responses:



NWJay, I took a quick look and didn't find Thompson's performance. But this link might help: an issue of Reel Magic that includes the performance and explanation, and a reference to Thomspson's Commercial Classics of Magic:

https://www.alakazam.co.uk/product-reel-magic-magazine--episode-5-johnny-thompson--dvd-dvdreelmagic05.html.



Magico: I'm *so* curious about Carey's version, but I can't find it. The only place I know about it being described is his DVD, Spotlight on Carey, which I haven't been able to find.


jaschris: I need to watch Jon Armstrong's version again to see what he does with the biddle move.


fonda57: this is a really intriguing idea. I've never done a triumph effect (nor had I heard of the Tenkai Revolve), so I'm doing some research.


WingChun: I bought Luka's book and dvd. They're great! Many of the effects are above my level, but they'll be there waiting for me when I'm ready. I need to look at the Biddle Trick there again, especially since you thought it might be adaptable to my story.


Thanks to you all!


Regards,


Bob
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I do half the biddle trick as part of one of my routines. The short version is, I start with a 4 joker production, the 2nd joker I make a mistake a produce the 5 of hearts and eventually change the 5 into the joker in the spectators hands. I do a few more things with the jokers and the 5 of hearts and eventually, with half the deck in my hand, half on the table, and the 5 and jokers still in play, I'm set up to make the 5 disappear from between the jokers and appear in the center of the deck. For me it packs all the punch of the biddle trick but gets rid of a lot of the process. I also do the biddle count then put the jokers in the spectators hand and make the 5 disappear from there so that the whole thing comes full circle, starting and ending with the 5 jumping from the spectators hands.
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Thanks, Michael. This sounds really fun. It sounds like you've gotten rid of the unmotivated stuff where the magician guesses which half the selection is in, and then chooses five cards for no apparent reason.



I'm a little hesitant to ask this, but do you have the long version written up? If so, would you be willing to share it in the Secret Sessions forum or by PM? I'll certainly understand if you prefer not to, but I'm really intrigued.



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P. S. Weirdly, your routine chimes nicely with another one I've been thinking about. It's in one of Fulves's Self-working Card books -- I can find it if you're interested. Basically, the magician shows the same card to each of 4 spectators, gives each spectator his card face-down, and then asks each what his card was. They all say "2H," which is pretty silly! They look at their cards, which are all jokers. Then the magician shows that the 2H isn't even in the deck!


Although Fulves's version is self-working, I've been thinking about how to do it with sleight of hand. One facet is: How do you make the 2H disappear from the deck? Just a few days ago I was looking at Daryl's Encyclopedia of Card Sleights, and he discusses various ways to make a card seem to vanish from the deck. Interestingly, the card ends up reversed in the center of the deck!


So I'm thinking that I could do something along the lines you described by doing the Fulves trick in order to produce the jokers. Then make the 2H appear mysteriously reversed in the deck (or half-deck or something; I haven't gotten that far in my thinking).
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Thanks, Michael. This sounds really fun. It sounds like you've gotten rid of the unmotivated stuff where the magician guesses which half the selection is in, and then chooses five cards for no apparent reason.
Bob


Perhaps I've been lucky but I've never seen a performance which included unmotivated stuff like you mentioned as most tend to use OZ Pearlman's presentation which is very motivated.
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Here's my presentation of John Gustaferro's Biddleless.
https://www.facebook.com/354371674752774......1040901/
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Here's my presentation of John Gustaferro's Biddleless.
https://www.facebook.com/354371674752774......1040901/


Nice reaction at the end.. Smile
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Hi Pepka,


I'm not on Facebook. I'd be interested to watch your video if you could post it on Youtube.


Bob
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Asi Wind published an impeccable variation of the Biddle Trick in his book, Chapter One. I perform it and it never fails to amaze my spectators.

Although this requires a Deck in memorized order, I think its worth to mention. However, I can't find a performance of it online.
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Thanks, fab1an. Do you happen to remember the name of the effect? I looked at the ad for the book and didn't see any title that was obviously Biddle-ish.


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Here's Terry Ward/Jack Diamond performing it, he has a nice subtly of letting them shuffle the deck after the selection is made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nHfGebHDJk (14 minutes in, though the whole set is great)
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Thanks, fab1an. Do you happen to remember the name of the effect? I looked at the ad for the book and didn't see any title that was obviously Biddle-ish.


Bob


Sure! It's called Transportation in three phases and can be found on pages 31-34.
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If you can get a hold of the OOP big book on the Magic of Francis Carlyle by Roger Pierre, Francis has a wonderful version of "the biddle trick" in there called "The Cops and The Culprit." Unfortunately I lost my copy of the book and I don't think I remember how to do the trick...it wasn't that hard, and had a nice plot. A little more complex than the original Biddle trick.

Oh and another nice simpler version is in the Bert Allerton book(let) which is sadly out of stock as well from Magic Inc.

I guess worthwhile magic books are no longer a worthwhile investment for the publishers. They are the best possible investment for the student.
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Ask Wind has a version in his new book! Brilliant! Deck shuffled, spec removes a bunch of cards from deck and thinks of anyone, shuffles them up and they are cleanly lost back in deck, you go through and remove 5 cards that you think they removed at the beginning, show the 5 cards and for the first time get spec to name their card, show it has vanished and now reversed in deck! Ultimate version in my opinion
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Hi Pepka,


I'm not on Facebook. I'd be interested to watch your video if you could post it on Youtube.


Bob

Sorry, I don't post on Youtube.
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Ask Wind has a version in his new book! Brilliant! Deck shuffled, spec removes a bunch of cards from deck and thinks of anyone, shuffles them up and they are cleanly lost back in deck, you go through and remove 5 cards that you think they removed at the beginning, show the 5 cards and for the first time get spec to name their card, show it has vanished and now reversed in deck! Ultimate version in my opinion


This seems to be a polished version of his variation that I mentioned above. He already released this years ago in his book, Chapter One.
However, the variation in his new book seems to have new touches and from what you have described I like them a lot!

I can only recommend Asi Winds take on the biddle trick. It really is superb.
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