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I am revisiting this awesome routine which sadly I haven't done in many years. However when I learned it originally it was the 789 Club ( not 654 club) and didn't use your age or the street address. Was this a version from a lecture I may have seen? If so, can you name the name the performer? I am pretty sure I didn't't make this routine up. Thank you.
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Hi Patrick, not sure about the two different versions, but as far as I know it's Bill Malone's routine.

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Bill Malone's presentation (using Mike Pappas' script) is certainly the best-known version of the story deck, and he introduced the notion of adding all sorts of false shuffles and cuts (which not everyone thinks is a good idea), but the plot itself dates back at least to 1889 ("The Queens Digging for Diamonds" in Tricks With Cards).

And there have been dozens of versions since then, a couple of particularly well-known ones being Herman Weber's "The Adventures of Diamond Jack" (1926), reprinted in Encylopedia of Card Tricks (1937); and "Moe and Sam", in Rufus Steele's The Last Word on Cards (1952).
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Yes, I have Bill Malone’s version both on VHS & DVD, a great and solid routine. Thank you.
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Watch Bill Malone do the fun routine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxe4WWGnPuc
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The modern "Sam the Bellhop" was done by the late Frank Everhart at the Ivanhoe bar in Chicago. I'm sure Bill used that as his starting point. I actually saw Frank do bar magic at the Ivanhoe but I don't recall if he did that trick that night. But it was his signature trick. I don't think there were false shuffles and cuts in his version.
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On Feb 27, 2018, ddyment wrote:
Bill Malone [...] introduced [...] all sorts of false shuffles and cuts (which not everyone thinks is a good idea)


Why would somebody think that shuffles and cuts are not a good idea?
Because it could instill the thought that it's possible to apparently shuffle a pack of cards, while leaving the order undisturbed?
On the other hand, if you don't shuffle/cut the whole thing is pointless, at least the way Malone does it, where it's clear the story is not made up as he turns the cards over ..

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Why would somebody think that shuffles and cuts are not a good idea?
Because it could instill the thought that it's possible to apparently shuffle a pack of cards, while leaving the order undisturbed?

That's certainly a significant reason. If you clearly and openly demonstrate that you can maintain complete physical control over a pack of cards, despite appearing to impossibly mix them, it pretty much removes "magic" from the equation.
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I have fond memories from many moons back of the determination and drive I had to learn this.
Coupled with a complete lack of experience or skill with cards at that time, I had no idea what I was getting into. Over the course of practicing it, I learned so much more than just this great routine.
As insightful as I now feel about the finer points and the do's n' don'ts regarding effects of this type, I still cannot offer a definitive response to the 'False Shuffle & Cuts' debate.
That debate is the Magicians equivalent of the Religion/ Politics thing. There's no right answer but there are plenty that are wrong and we continually chase our tails with no end in sight. Love it .. Cheers all.
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As long as the audience is entertained...does it really need to be an issue of shuffling versus not shuffling? I had a bartender who would do Sam the Bellhop for our customers. It was the only "trick" he knew. He couldn't false shuffle and cut like the expert card handlers, so he just set the deck up ahead of time. It was a always a crowd favorite...because the bartender it made it that way,not the cards.
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At the Moment, I don't have a Story telling Deck trick in my repetoire, although I know Bill Malones Version. My way would be definitely to do it with an borrowed deck or at least a deck, that was shuffled by the spectators and then set it up during another Routine (4 Aces Routine for example) and then go in to the Story telling trick. May be I would do a sloppy looking false rosetta Shuffle now and then during the Routine. Nothing that would give the Impression, that I could controll the Cards. The Cards fit the Story by coincidence or for those who don't believe in coincidence by Magic then.
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Again...the performer sells the trick...not the false shuffles/cuts/etc. that seem to dominate a magicians mindset when developing a routine. The spectator who has been entertained by Sam the Bellhop probably wont give a hoot how many times the deck was cut and shuffled. A magician, on the other hand, will spend countless hours revising the effect to no end by brainstorming the ways that the deck can appear to be in random order...assuming that citing the script verbatim will make it entertaining.
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Performers can't sell the trick if they don't know what they are selling. The performer has to be clear in his or her own mind what the effect is.
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For a very "mellow" performance, here is Willie Nelson and his sister. I think it is killer having the spectator cut the cards.

https://youtu.be/KJ0ncVqrd8M
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