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RyanD1113
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Hey guys. So David Blaine performs a trick where the spectator chooses 5 cards, he has them name all the numbers and suits of a deck, and then names all the cards in their hand, ending with the one they are focused on. Can anyone tell me where I can learn this effect? Thanks!
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Hi Ryan,

This is a very difficult trick, I think David Blaine may be one of the few performers in the world able to do it. If you want to learn it, I recommend you start reading as much magic as you can get your hands on, and one day you will be ready. Once you are ready, come back to the secret area of this forums and I know few people that can point you on the right direction.

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Hi Marc,

That's a very vague statement. "One day you will be ready"? Why do you assume the OP isn't "ready"? Though a poster may only have two posts on this forum, they may be a legitimate master of the art. He or she may be "ready" now and is doing exactly what you suggest, coming to this forum for some guidance.

It is also not a very helpful statement... Assuming the OP is not "ready", what should he or she study to become "ready"?

He or she is asking where to learn the effect. If you know the effect, please share the source or any relevant learning materials. I'm sure this can be done without exposure.

I mean no offence - it's just that your response is a bit puzzling and vague.

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OP,

Do you have a link to a performance of the effect? I'm sure somebody here can help to point you in the right direction to learn the effect or at least an approximation of it.

Edit: figured I ought to mention some relevant resources for you, just based on your brief description of the effect.

Potential methods:
The tossed out deck (Gazzo teaches this, but I'm not sure if he is the original creator)
The ninja tossed out deck system (Patrick Redford)
Any method of controlling the selection (endless possibilities)
Si stebbins or any stack can easily allow for this type of effect
Clever use of glimpses
Sheer luck Smile

The final bit, identifying the 1 of 5 cards "focused" on could be accomplished using a concept the name of which escapes me. I think it may be a Dingle thing, but involved fanning the cards out. The concept allows you to determine the card. I hope a more knowledgeable conjuror with a better memory will complete my thought.

Yowie
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Yowie, no offense taken, but the OP did not give any background of his knowledge in Magic, and it shows to the Café and his first question is asking to learn a David Blaine trick that is not David's Blaine. If he new Magic (more specific card Magic) he would surely know the Spanish magician behind the craze of these method, or the American magician that went before him, or some of the early sources you listed in your 'potential methods'. Though there had been lots of recent developments on that new line of magic (specially by Spanish and German magicians), there is a lot of work involved and it puts off lots of magicians that are not willing to take the effort to learn what needs to be learned for this effect.

This is not the place to reveal or hint methods. If the OP is serious about magic, it will not take long to get 50 posts and get in the secret area. I will have no issue not just pointing him or her to the right resources, but actually helping on doing the work necessary. If he or she can not be bothered to stay in this forums for 50 posts, then there is no need for him to learn this secret (btw... I think one of the books that could be used to learn has just been reprinted recently, but it was quite difficult to obtain in past years)

Best of lucks to both the OP and you

Marc
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Hi Marc,

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I understand and appreciate where you are coming from.

I didn't know there was a secret area to themagiccafe. Suppose I'll get there eventually! Thanks for the tip. There is a wealth of knowledge here above ground, too.

Yes, if we are thinking of the same book, and I am quite certain that we are, it did just get reprinted! Very happy for those who have not experienced the particular joy of it yet Smile Hopefully there are many *stacks* of copies, enough to go around Smile this particular area of conjuring (the topic of the book) does deserve particular respect and discretion. I hope my comment wasn't too revealing for this forum but am happy to edit if so.

Cheers Marc.
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Hi Yowie_, your post made me smile Smile it's an area of magic that I love too. But for the OP and others that may just start in magic, there is no need to go to those lengths (although I recommend it) the same effect can be accomplished with the ideas that Yowie_ listed above.
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Hello
I must say, you guys have had quite the discussion on my post. Marc, I have been in magic for several years and just recently learned of this site, this is why only 2 posts so far. And I was not looking for any method on here, just to be pointed to a reference to learn it. As for the performance, this video is of him performing it for Jimmy Fallon: https://youtu.be/Z8Ws4PEky28
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Chan Canasta.
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Chan Canasta is certainly a good starting point, as is the other names mentioned or alluded to on here. The actual effect as you see it performed was put together by Asi Wind, and the bare bones "method" of it is explained in his first booklet, Chapter One. That said, there's a lot more that goes into making this effect really work other than the method per se, and that material has not been published by Asi. He is, of course, not the only one to work an effect like this - I recall seeing Max Maven perform an effect like this in his one man show that was also very good (not to mention the masters that've come before them). But as far as what Blaine is performing on Fallon, I can say that it is indeed Asi's routining. It's been discussed before, especially if you search for references to the Fallon performance - I think there's at least 2-3 other threads on it in here - but if you want the nitty gritty details on it, you'll have to get it from Asi Wind, or by studying the suggested material yourself and coming up with your own take on it.
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RyanD1113,

Check for any work on stacks. Easy ones as the one mentioned by Yowie_, or more complex ones (JT, SA, WA, PR,...). Or, you can go with other options mentioned above. David Blaine uses JT as anyone that uses JT can tell by this clip Smile

Keep contributing to this forums and you will find what those initials mean Smile, if you can't find out, let me know in a couple of months and I'll tell you what they mean if you are still interested

Marc
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JT : Juan Tamariz.
We are just discussing card tricks…It’s not like cracking NSA codes with live or death issue !
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Like sgtgrey said above, this can be found in Asi Wind’s booklet “chapter one”. A thorough read through the explanation and a little thinking will give you the answer your looking for. The one subtlety that was cut from the David Blaine clip is what sells it and what most likely fooled you when you saw him perform it. Great routine. Not difficult at all sleight wise.
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Does anybody here know how he came up with the card that was thought of? I have the rest down. I've put a lot of time and effort into the choose a group of cards and divination of each (using the JT method). I just get stumped as to how he knows which was thought of.
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Actually the show was...edited (and you can see where, if you look closely). There is a little part that is not shown and that is the part where he secretly know the card Jimmy was thinking of. I know that because I saw other raw versions of this effect. Smile
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Ok, that's helpful. Where can I see a "raw version"? Any extra details would be appreciated. I thought it looked too clean, but it really is a cool subtlety.
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Already stated - Asi Wind's Chapter One. It's applied to a different effect, but the bare bones method is there.
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Ok perfect. Looks like it's out of stock but I will see if it's in the Magic Castle library. Thanks for your help
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Blaine also does this routine without any cuts or edits to a young lady. Just search David Blaine Cambridge university. He does the subtlty everyone is referring to. Along with this routine he does a few others. Even gets into mnemonica using a borrowed brand new deck. Pretty cool video to watch if your in to mnemonica stack work.
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Thanks Bobby Forbes! That's exactly what I needed to see. Brilliant. So easy to do and really takes it to another level.
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@magicbrady - you can see a raw version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc8soAhOKE0

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