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Bill Hegbli
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On Jun 1, 2018, Eddiemrdj wrote:
Also Bill, speaking of "absurd and Confusing", you should proof read your replies...."that have to answered from"......ugh yea.


I do proof read all my posts, and there is no errors when they are submitted.

Just think of it as playing "Wheel of Fortune", and fill in the missing or misplaced letters. Smile
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Hey Bill, you said the chair suspension doesn't use a cloth.....looks like Penn and Teller didn't get your memo.



Yes, Abbott's Chair Suspension does not use a cloth.

I assume I am talking to magicians that know a little bit about what has been on the market, and is currently being offered. Mak Magic Chair Suspension was the 1st to use metal folding chairs. Everyone else started copying them. That style is actually considered new, only been around the last 30 years.

I consider it the most dangerous version to use with a spectator or stooge, as they can collapse or fall over.
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I have performed the chair suspension over 300 times. I started with a Jim Sommers illusion (the same "plastic" chairs you are referring to) and am now using a European Suspension. The difference between the two is like night and day. You can upgrade the chairs all you want, but you still have the light weight gimmick attached to the board. This may sag or even break off with additional weight. Experiment with heavy weights (not people) to see what your new set-up will hold. (Jay recommends an engine block, but they're hard to work with). My cloth has a small piece hanging on the inside at at the head end - when doing the trick, this piece falls over the gimmick. It just looks like part of the cloth and doesn't raise suspicion. Incorporate this if you can - the Jim Sommers didn't have this, and I felt the same as you about the visible piece. Not a problem if you're on stage, but close-up is a different matter. Lastly, you MUST assemble the unit in front of the audience. People assume a cantilevered unit if you don't. As far as raising up the board at an angle when attaching it - don't worry about it. Nobody knows what you are doing. Don't overthink what you're doing (or as some say, don't run if you're not being chased). Just put it together and do the illusion. Most spectators really enjoy this illusion, although personally I think it's the lamest illusion ever invented.
Bill Hegbli
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Penn and Teller on the FOOL US tonight on the CW, just enhanced their Chair Suspension on more time. Similar to my reference previously posted in this topic, but a little different. Looked good.

It will be repeated on Friday for those who missed tonight's show.
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What's really amazing is how magicians copy and steal jokes, puns, etc. but they don't copy / steal when it matters. Penn & Teller show everyone EXACTLY how the chair suspension should be done.
Having the assistants neck properly positioned and having the assistant lift their legs / feet in the air along with holding their hands up the way Harbin instructed are all so important for the visual of this illusion. The chair suspension is not a chair version of the Blaney ladder levitation, it's very much it's own special illusion that can be totally boring and obvious, or borderline supernatural.
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Well Thomas.
There is a place for the Harbin presentation (the volunteer has the power) as opposed to a family show where it’s netter just to say “I can not make them float (while the B.B. is floating).

The benifits to reverse psychology where kids are present is that they are misdirected from trying to crawl under the illusion and trying to convince you they are floating. Therefore they don’t attempt to climb under the illusion.
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Jay, I'm really confused by your post. I wasn't referring to kids show entertainers, I was thinking of illusionists who perform the chair suspension as a levitation. They leave the lady "suspended" for way too long and they just let her lay there.

Im not sure I understand what you mean by keeping them from crawling under?
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