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Kjellstrom
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If you have it let us know what you think about it!

https://www.lybrary.com/optik-deck-p-922519.html

Optic Deck is an optical/visual memorized deck. You 'see' a number 1-52 in your mind's eye and you 'optically' or visually know what card is at that number. Similarly you 'see' any card in your mind's eye and you again 'optically' know what position the card is at.

The stack looks very random, the suits look random, there is no red/black alternating pattern and even after reasonable scrutiny it would be almost impossible to spot a sequence, because there is none. Even magicians after being told that there is a stack involved will find it extremely difficult to spot the stack.

This is a monodistic stack meaning there are no repeating banks of cards. The underlying principle is probably a new approach in the field of card stacks. Optic Deck is very easy to learn and use.

There are no algorithms, no formulae, no brute memorization, no mnemonic phrases, no complicated rules. Best of all the card values and card suits do not have separate tracks to work out. You get both of them in one stroke instantly.

Stacks are a pet subject of mine. There are several stacks I created over the past couple of decades. But started releasing them only recently from 2015 starting with the Karma Deck which is still the number one best selling stack on Lybrary. A few of them like Sloka Deck, Monk Stack, Fun Stacks, Stebbins Surprise Stack etc. have been released but a majority of my stacks are yet to be released. Each of these stacks has its own specialty but the common property is they are all easy to learn and use. None of them need days or weeks of struggle to acquire. Of course, for every stack a little practice is always helpful in the early stages of learning that stack.

The strength of Optic Deck is its unconventional construction and lateral approach to learning it.
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Indeed, I’m deeply impressed!
The Unknown Mentalist developed a new and very sophisticated approach to stack a deck!
This is vary rare in card magic but he did it and arrived a new intuitive level.
My recommendation...
Low Vision Marking System * Melencolia - a balanced 4x4 magic square. I love the method because of its simplicity. Even better: Once learned the method is impossible to forget and you can do it under fire!
http://www.lybrary.com/melencolia-p-921956.html or at ozmd@solka.de

Euphoria - an associative 4x4 magic square for any magic sum and any cell for the lowest or highest number selected by a spectator, using a sequence of 16 numbers and skipping only one single number in the case of a doubly-even or odd total!
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Bought this on a whim. I’d say it’s pretty brilliant. Most people should be able to have this stack workable within an hour or two at most.
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The people who frequent this forum are the least likely to need this stack. Unless you have a learning disability, or a strong aversion to taking the mem-deck leap, there's almost no point to learning a stack that's built-in property is ease-of-memorization. Occasionally members here talk about a trick that uses two decks, each in a different memorized stack order, but I've never seen a well-constructed routine where it's necessary (usually only one of the decks needs to be memorized, and the effect is stronger if the other is genuinely shuffled and mixed).
Ellusionst discussing the Arcane Playing cards: "Michaelangelo took four years to create the Sistine Chapel masterpiece... these took five."

Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes: "You know Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are even worse!"
Claudio
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@Cain: out of interest, have you read the Optik Deck pdf, or is it just an opinion of a general nature?
Cain
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My comments are based on the ad copy.
Ellusionst discussing the Arcane Playing cards: "Michaelangelo took four years to create the Sistine Chapel masterpiece... these took five."

Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes: "You know Einstein got bad grades as a kid? Well, mine are even worse!"
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So would I be needing this stack if I already have one memorized and use extensively?
are there any stack independent material in this book that is worth look into?
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I have read the pdf. Clever. The stack provides visual clues to help memorization (like a peg list is a clue), but ultimately the stack needs to be memorized well enough not to need clues. This is not a substitution for memization, but it is a good start.

While there is not a persistent red/black pattern. Ribbon spreading the stack, you will perceive a pattern enough to realize the colors aren’t completely random.

My opinion: if you are going through the trouble of memorizing a deck it might as well look random.

It IS a Clever idea from an author with many many clever ideas.

If you already know a memDeck, this won’t give you anything new.

This is only my humble opinion.
Just Some Guy.

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Six Fine Ladies to Fight a Great Jackass -- me."
Claudio
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Sounds interesting, thanks Tom.
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