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Jonathanmc

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Las Vegas, NV
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Posted: Apr 28, 2004 5:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathanmc  

I have read several references to the 18 basic effects but cannot find a list anywhere. I can figure out the basic ones but my list hasn't reached 18 yet.
Vanish
Production
Solid through solid
Transformation
Levitation
Broken and restored

But that's only six.
Thanks
thumbslinger

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My fence is looong. It now has
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Posted: Apr 28, 2004 7:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of thumbslinger  

Hmm...I remember something about 8, adding transportation to your list (as in something going from one place to another within the same space)...Transforming including, size changes, people/objects switching place, color changes, etc...which leaves only one other which I can't seem to think of....unless you put something more towards the realm of mentalism.....

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rgranville

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Boston area
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Posted: Apr 28, 2004 9:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of rgranville  

Lamont and Wiseman list eight basic categories in their book Magic in Theory:
Appearance
Vanish
Transposition
Transformation
Penetration
Restoration
Extraordinary Feats
Telekinesis
ESP

Most of these categories have subcategories.

jcards01

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Waterloo, IL
1391 Posts
Posted: Apr 28, 2004 9:51pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of jcards01  

Dariel Fitsgee has a lit in his book, The Card Expert Entertains.

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phread

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Posted: Apr 28, 2004 11:04pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of phread  

Hi there are 19 effects listed in the trick brain by fitzkee. a good book to get you thinking.
phread

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Reis O'Brien

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Seattle, WA
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Posted: Apr 29, 2004 10:57am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Reis O'Brien  

The 8 basic reactions goes as thus;
"Holy Moses!"
"Good gravy!"
"What the...?!"
"How did you...?!"
"You've got to be kidding!"
"Great Custer's Ghost!"
"Oh.... my... GOD!"
"NFW!" (abreviated)


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silent shadow

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Posted: Apr 29, 2004 3:29pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of silent shadow  

Lol... , I say I only got what "NFW" mean't when I saw it performed in the magic shop , I said "NO WAY" then I twigged ..

Magic or just an illusion? it's a free choice .... isn't it?
Ricky B

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Northern California
172 Posts
Posted: May 3, 2004 12:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Ricky B  

Here are the 21 classifications of magic per Fitzkee:

Production (appearance)

Multiplication (making one into many)

Vanish (disappearance)

Transposition (invisible travel)

Transformation (making one into another)

Penetration (solid through solid)

Restoration (making the destroyed whole)

Animation (making things move by themselves)

Levitation (anti-gravity)

Attraction (mysterious adhesion)

Sympathetic Reaction (making an object do the same thing as another object)

Invulnerability (indestructibility; ability to avoid harm)

Physical anomaly (contradictions; freaks)

Spectator Failure (challenges; "sucker" effects)

Mind Over Matter (making things "move" with the power of the mind)

Divination (mentally locating an object)

Thought Reading (mentally reading another's thoughts)

Thought Transference (mentally sending thoughts to another)

Prediction (foretelling a future action or situation)

Mental agility (memorization; lightning calculation)

Hypnotism (mentally causing changes in the actions of others)

Jonathanmc

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Las Vegas, NV
209 Posts
Posted: May 3, 2004 4:16pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathanmc  

Thank you Ricky,

That is very helpfull.

andre combrinck

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South Africa
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Posted: May 8, 2004 3:39pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of andre combrinck  

Tarbell has all the effects listed although I can't remember in which volume.
Andre
tedski

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New Jersey
696 Posts
Posted: May 10, 2004 7:20pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of tedski  

Buckley's Principles and Deceptions has a take on this also - not as long as Fitzkee if I recall correctly...
Dr_Stephen_Midnight

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SW Ohio, USA
1555 Posts
Posted: Jul 8, 2004 8:00pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Dr_Stephen_Midnight  

Fitzkee left out "escapes" (not all of which classify as penetrations).

IMHO those who try to definitively classify magic effects need to find something more productive to do.

Steve


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Mike: "No."
Dr. Lao: "Wise answer."
Jonathanmc

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Las Vegas, NV
209 Posts
Posted: Jul 8, 2004 8:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathanmc  

Steve,

Some would say that about people who practice the art of illusion also.

Thank you for your insight. Escapes seem to balance between magic and something else. There is the "How did he do it" factor in both.
armagician

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142 Posts
Posted: Jul 9, 2004 2:03am    Reply with quote   View Profile of armagician  

WOW Thanks
marlotto

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East Riding of Yorkshire
5 Posts
Posted: Jul 9, 2004 3:46pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of marlotto  

I was taught that there are 7 BASIC magic effects:

Production
Vanish
Transportation
Transformation
Penetration
Levitation
Restoration
Mark Williams

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Las Vegas, Nevada
292 Posts
Posted: Jul 10, 2004 1:55am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mark Williams  

Gary Darwin did a DVD series listing what he considers the 10 Basic Principles of Magic:


1. Productions and Appearances

2. Disappearances and Vanishes

3. Transpositions

4. Transformations

5. Penetrations

6. Restorations

7. Levitations and Suspensions

8. ESP

9. Spirit Effects

10. Identifications

"Once is Magic!! Twice is an Education!!"
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