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I typically use non-standard Bicycles (special editions, bridge size, ghosts, etc) for most of my non-gaff card tricks. I have a Svengali deck from the dollar store, so the difference between the normal decks and the Svengali is stark. The majority of Svengali decks I see are standard bicycles, although I do see a ghost Svengali deck exists.

I am wondering, though, if anyone has any tips on keeping suspicion off of a Svengali deck when switched around a normal and different looking deck. Of course the ideal might would be switching two "identical" decks without the audience knowing, but again I don't really use standard bikes (ghost Svengali is an option).
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Make your own Svengali out of the type of cards you use... that will really blow them away!
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On Sep 12, 2018, misterbill wrote:
Make your own Svengali out of the type of cards you use... that will really blow them away!
How would I go about that? Surely not getting 26 identical decks just to strip 1 card out of them. Smile
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Buy one “one way force deck” (couple bucks at Penguin or the like) and you can make two decks. You will need to trim them about 1/64” and round the corners.
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Buy one “one way force deck” (couple bucks at Penguin or the like) and you can make two decks. You will need to trim them about 1/64” and round the corners.


Good idea, but I would likely just buy a normal bike Svengali at that point. Again, I don't use standard bikes much, I like the artsy cards.
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If you want to keep suspicion down you either have to bite the lemon and make one up or use standard cards. By not using standard/ normal looking cards you are already heavily alerting your spectators. Then on top switching back designs between tricks all the bells will go nuts!
I can understand your admiration of the beautifully made 'designer decks' but unless you have a reason, like having a ancient looking one along with a haunted patter for lets say a card rise, to use such a deck IMHO it's best to avoid those kinds of cards.

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On Sep 12, 2018, misterbill wrote:
How would I go about that? Surely not getting 26 identical decks just to strip 1 card out of them. Smile


That's exactly what I am saying! Just get some bricks of the cards you want.

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On Sep 12, 2018, Markus_M wrote:
If you want to keep suspicion down you either have to bite the lemon and make one up or use standard cards. By not using standard/ normal looking cards you are already heavily alerting your spectators. ...


Markus is absolutely right, but only if your audience isn't familiar with the decks you are using. However if you perform for people who /are/ familiar with those decks and/or actually use them, well those people would /never/ suspect that you could gimmick them up in anyway (or would even bother to)! This means for them you could get away with quite a bit of mischief! Make a stripper deck with them! Better yet, mark them and do some marked deck effects! The miracles you could perform for them would be well worth a few bricks of cards and little time!
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Alternatively, you could learn a good ACR and pretty much eliminate the need for a Svengali Deck.
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