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RodrigoGrando Loyal user Pennsylvania 226 Posts 
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I always had a great service from the Ellusionist team. I don't understand all this hate...
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On Oct 2, 2018, GeraintClarke wrote: Well G, of course you think it's best not to get involved. Judging from your previous arrogance on the CHANGE thread I would expect you to say that which wasn't very fair either. My remarks about the House of Fire and the quality of Rick's products is exactly spot on and should be looked into by purchasers. After all, we are all hear to help others. So, if I want to come here and help others I surely can get involved. It's good to hear that you have a life outside this forum as it's very important. I to have plenty going on with three kids, a full time job, average of 2-3 gigs a month, assistant coach for two of my boys ice hockey team but yet I still find a minute to check a thread if I feel it's important to do so. RNK
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On Oct 2, 2018, RodrigoGrando wrote: For the record, the few products I have previously purchased from "E" have always been shipped and received in very good time. I will give credit when credit is due.
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts
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On Oct 2, 2018, GeraintClarke wrote: The Sure Shot Sharpie by House of Fire is exactly that. It does ignite flash paper (no flash cotton needed) which in turn creates a fireball and shoots in the air like a little bazooka. Pyro Pen looks cool too. But the ad copy boasting how innovative it is and how it is the first of its kind...how everything else is just an imitation is simply not true. House of Fire innovated this years ago. You ad copy should be "more informed" as others "might take your remarks as gospel." |
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GeraintClarke Special user 661 Posts
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On Oct 2, 2018, RodrigoGrando wrote: Thank you Rodrigo, we appreciate your support. We don't understand it either. |
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts
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On Oct 2, 2018, GeraintClarke wrote: It's not hateful to tell the TRUTH. Why not do so in your ad copy and avoid the problems your having in this thread?
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.
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On Oct 2, 2018, GeraintClarke wrote: Of course you don't understand it. As senor fabuloso stated, maybe if you try telling the truth from the beginning you wouldn't have a problem.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1855 Posts
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On Oct 2, 2018, RodrigoGrando wrote: Where is the hate?
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Stucky Inner circle I'm Batman! 1355 Posts
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My favorite part of the demo video is when they shoot the fireball and two people walking by don't seem to notice one bit.
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Jack Straw Inner circle Wichita 1020 Posts
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Controversy?
You guys don't know what controversy is. THIS is controversy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gazNwzC4H0
Jack Straw from Wichita, cut his buddy down
And dug for him a shallow grave, and laid his body down Half a mile from Tucson, by the morning light One man gone and another to go, my old buddy you're moving much too slow We can share the women, we can share the wine |
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magicnorm Special user 510 Posts
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On Oct 1, 2018, RNK wrote: ATTENTION: If an item you have purchased has stopped working- send the item back to me. ANY TAMPERING WITH OUR PRODUCT- WE WILL NOT FIX DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FIX THE ITEM ON YOUR OWN- We will not fix it after you have tried. We will of course fix our item as long as product has not been tampered with or abused. less labor and shipping and only if product is still being produced, or if it is fixable thanks If you have any questions about our products please ask. Were more then happy to please! This is House of Fire's policy, whats the big issue with Ellusionist's policy. Sounds pretty much the same. Not understanding the Big Problem. NM |
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magicnorm Special user 510 Posts
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On Oct 1, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: Question, where would one find a Sure Shot Sharpie for say, a comparison? NM |
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts
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I'm not seeing it on the site anymore for some reason. Maybe sold out?
I bought it back in 2015 so it wasn't that long ago. |
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RodrigoGrando Loyal user Pennsylvania 226 Posts
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On Oct 3, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: So, you can buy one from Ellusionist. Link: https://www.ellusionist.com/pyro-pen.html |
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts
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^ Beside the point. Not questioning the legitimacy of e being able to sell their version of it. Just the bs in their ad copy of how they are the originators and everything else is an imitation. When in reality, they are the imitators.
Whether it was intentional or not, who knows...but e should just call it what it is. A very cool advancement in the fireball-shooting -sharpie category. Otherwise, it's kind of an insult to House of Fire who has been doing this kind of stuff for years. They didn't imitate anyone. |
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mantel Special user 923 Posts
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On Oct 2, 2018, magicnorm wrote: The big issue is Ellusionist's 60 days for a no-questions-asked full-on money back guarantee (minus shipping). vs House of Fire's lifetime guarantee. 60 days doesn't sound the same as a lifetime. |
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mantel Special user 923 Posts
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On Oct 3, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: They've done this before with their Scorpion UV System. When someone pointed out that Sue-Anne Webster's Blacklight was released before Ellusionist's Scorpion UV System the result was this: Quote:
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Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts
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On Oct 3, 2018, PendletonThe3rd wrote: Rick would be the first to say that on many of his items, he was improving on original creations of Theater Effects.
No matter how many times you say the wrong thing, it will NEVER be right.
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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts
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I've been communicating with Rick on this and he does maintain that he was the first to do this with the Sharpie years ago.
He stopped selling the Sure Shot Sharpie recently but did wholesale some to the following Australian company...fourth one down if you want to check it out (the demo has him doing a close up shot but it shoots it in the air too like a little bazooka): http://www.geelongfireworks.com.au/flash-fire-1.php When I bought it back in 2015, it was $65 I think e should credit him for the innovation. They can boast all they want about how they refined and improved it. |
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magicnorm Special user 510 Posts
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Mantel, I don’t see where your seeing Lifetime guarantee. The way it reads is - will fix as long as you haven’t “ abused, tampered with, or tried to fix yourself “ all of which can be very subjective. On top of that “. LESS LABOR and SHIPPING “. ? You seem to want to compare a return in 60 days if your not satisfied “. Which has nothing to do with repairing a defective item”. to a send in your item for repair if not working and we will fix IF it meets certain criteria (. Which buy the way is completely fine ). “ Less shipping “ is the same on both. Does Ellusionist say they will not repair their products? Doubtful. I have not read anyone from House of Fire on here raising an uproar over who’s first, who’s policy is better etc... Is this item even out yet to compare? Sounds like a lot of heat that is unwarranted.
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