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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Here is what I find to be the most ridiculous thing in the world. It's called the star registry. How it works is this: If you love someone, you can "prove it" by paying a large sum of money to this registry, and they will "officially" name one of the millions of stars in the sky after your loved one.
I say "Big whoopie doo!" They act like they must OWN the stars in the first place, and I think the one who made them has that ownership, not us scurvy little earthlings. Secondly, if I want to name a star after, let's say, my mom, I am gonna just take her outside at night and point to the star I want, and say "Mom. See that star right there? Well, tonight I'm naming it after you. That's your star mom!" Didn't cost me a cent. Then I can take the money I just saved, and go buy her some flowers for mother's day. And that is why think the star registry is a bunch of ridiculous money grabbing crap. A scheme to get my bucks at almost ALL profit for them. Dan, what do YOU think is the most ridiculous thing in the world?
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Chris Berry Special user 831 Posts |
Actually, I think this thread is the most ridiculous thing in the world.
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CoolMAgic4U Loyal user New York 205 Posts |
I have to agree with Daffydoug.
I have said this for a LONG time! What idiots would pay to name a star after someone? Do they own the star then? Who has given the rights to sell the star in the first place.
CoolMagic4U---aka---Ed
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Full Effect Loyal user Los Angeles 257 Posts |
If you really love someone you cant put a price on that.
People who "buy" these stars aren't thinking "I own this star, and you don't hahaha" These people buy these stars, something special that you can just go buy on Ebay (actually I think you might be able to soon...o_O) or at Walmart, to show how much they love someone. A symbol of love that will last as long as ones love for another survives. Think how that person feels when their loved one is away. They're lonely so she looks up into the sky and see her star. But then again most who think this is a ridiculous idea are still immature and know nothing about and understand what people do for love. p.s. This thread is the most ridiculous thing Ive seen
"Running water never becomes stale, so keep flowing" - Immortal Dragon Bruce Lee
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CoolMAgic4U Loyal user New York 205 Posts |
HA...BULL PUCKY....
Sounds like you are just not mature enough to know what love is yourself. REAL LOVE is not something that you buy someone. It is a feeling that is within you and the one you love. It is not a material thing or something that you can show with a certificate. And yes now this thread is the most ridiculous thing Ive seen Like Daffydoug said in his post....take the person you love outside and say...see that star...I am naming it after you and it can be ours FOREVER. WHY would you want to spend $$ on something just to "PROVE" your love for them. If you are TRUELY in love..then that would be enough. No certificate saying that I own or have named a star after the person I love would mean anything to your significant other if you are what you say.... so in love and would do anything to prove it. My personal opinion is that it is a way for some people to profit off of others willingness to "PROVE" their love to someone. I just think there are better ways of doing this. What about telling the person you are with how happy they make you EVERYDAY....showing how much you love them by doing little things for them.....running a bath....giving them a backrub.....cleaning up the dishes so they can relax after dinner.... Making someone feel special is not by what you buy him or her or give him or her for a gift. It is your ACTIONS in everyday life that is what is important. Again, these are MY opinions. If you do not agree with them then FINE....go by your wife, girlfriend, mother a star. I just fell that showing someone is much better then trying to buy them a little special star that will last forever...
CoolMagic4U---aka---Ed
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Thanks, Cool.
Of course, another option is to give them a Dan Harlan magic Starcle! Now THAT would mean something!
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Full Effect Loyal user Los Angeles 257 Posts |
The only reason Im replying is that this thread is the MOST RIDICULOUS THING IVE EVER SEEN. It has nothing to do with magic.
People do stupid things for love. They make macaroni hearts, long stem roses, puppies, and what not. Like I said before Love has no price. I see nothing wrong with someone wanting to name a star after their lover.
"Running water never becomes stale, so keep flowing" - Immortal Dragon Bruce Lee
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
But the original question was addressed to Dan Harlan.
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Full Effect Loyal user Los Angeles 257 Posts |
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On 2004-05-06 01:54, daffydoug wrote: Honestly Do you really think Dan has enough time to replay to all your posts? Even the ones that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MAGIC. Which you can just PM to him.
"Running water never becomes stale, so keep flowing" - Immortal Dragon Bruce Lee
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DanHarlan V.I.P. 998 Posts |
Is naming a star after someone like saying "Hey Honey, you're a big ball of gas! Someday you'll expand, maybe explode. You could even turn into a black hole that sucks in everything nearby including the light. You're unique, just like billions and billions of other tiny specks millions of light years away."
The Most Ridiculous Thing in the MAGIC World (to get us back on track) that I can think of is the Color-Changing Plumes. What are they? Why are they in so many colors? Why are you changing them to so many other colors? No, I don't think there's anything hidden in that tube that you just passed them through. I think whatever they are, they're just made to change color, so I hope there is some point you are trying to make. Nope. Guess not. --Dan Harlan |
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
I have also felt that was a goofy trick, too. I never could understand the premise of it. and even worse, what story could you use to illustrate the color change? A story for it has always eluded me, which is why I have never purchased them. Dumb. Just really plain dumb.
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2bunik New user texas 27 Posts |
I can't understand how people like the round sponge to square ones effect .. they are still a sponge... My opinion though...
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David Todd Inner circle 2328 Posts |
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On 2004-05-06 04:32, 2bunik wrote: Oh, I don't know about that........the shape change is at least a nice visual surprise in the context of a longer sponge ball routine. Also, the usual way of doing it involves the ball changing color with the appearance of the square sponge as a surprise visual kicker . As to "why" these things happen (change color, change shape) that's up to you to come up with a plausible presentation/story. A lot of magic starts looking ridiculous when you apply the test of "why would I do this if I truly had the ability to do magic ?" . Some of the only effects that survive that sort of rigorous logic would be Miser's Dream or conjuring up a beautiful woman . On the other hand if you had real magic powers why would you really want to make little jewels move around on a plastic "hot rod" , or cause three coins to fly from one hand to another , or even link and unlink steel rings ? Context , symbolism, story all must combine to make these things have some sort of relevance . But I agree with Dan that things like The Color Changing Plumes are silly. There's no real meaning to it and the method is not especially baffling . I suppose someone could possibly come up with a plausible routine for the plumes , but usually that sort of stuff is performed only because it's thought to be "pretty" or flashy . ( if you like that sort of thing) . I have a feeling that maybe the Color Changing Plumes evolved from some sort of flower effect ......way , way back it may have been a color changing flower effect , done with real flowers, that eventually became those ridiculous looking feather flowers , which look like feather dusters or plumes anyway, so the even more ridiculous Color Changing Plumes nonsense is the end result. If you go back to the original effect of Color Changing Flowers then it makes some sense . Say a vase of flowers are magicially produced as a gift , but the lady doesn't like yellow roses, she prefers red roses........ voila ! the magician changes the yellow flowers to red. It makes sense , there's a context , and hopefully the original method was more baffling . P.S. I think Dan Harlan wins the award for "Most Patient Celebrity Guest Ever" . |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
I would rather be a star than have a star named after me.
In fact I think I am a star because my Father called me son... (Sun)... Best ahead, Glenn Bishop http://www.mrhypnotist.org
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
I beg to differ on the color changing plumes. Before I started making them, I used them for many many shows.
Yes, it doesn't fool magicians. No, it generally doesn't not have a patter to it though I have seen it done that way. For laymen, it is a very, very strong effect. I do not believe every effect has to be done to patter. I think that the hex a flexon is a good exsample that is makes no sense without patter. But if it where made in a slightly different form and done to music, it would play for laymen. I think too often we think of magicians not as laymen. The plumes has been a very good standard routine for many, many magicians who work for real people. Possibly, the cheaper imported sets have lessen the impact. But for me it will be one of the last effect to ever come out of my show. As for the evolution of the color changing plumes, Sid Loraine told me he remembered seeing it done in music halls in England. Horace Marshall ( my mentor) came up with the one ahead principle that utterly baffled many of the best magicians of the day including Jack Gwyene and Sorcar. It does still fool laymen. I have heard explainations of chemicals in the papers among other things. As for a story, if you must say they are plumes from the circus horses or band uniforms. Do a follow the leader with silks changing colors then the plumes following. I am not sure how this thread ended up in a Color Changing Plumes bashing but I'll stick by them for my shows.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
You Go hug!
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DanHarlan V.I.P. 998 Posts |
This thread ended up discussing the plumes because DaffyDoug asked what I thought was the most ridiculous thing in the world and I decided to relate his question to magic since we are in a magic forum. Whew!
I'm glad Richard joined us to balance out the discussion. I'm not "bashing" the plumes or the people who use them. I find them to be ridiculous. That does not mean everyone agrees with me. I agree with me, but that happens a lot. That's why I spend so much time with me; I have a lot in common with myself. If you must make plumes change color, please order them from http://www.hughesmagic.com He makes the most beautiful plumes available, even if I don't understand them. --Dan Harlan |
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joseph Eternal Order Please ignore my 17407 Posts |
I stick with the sure things, like the book of winning bingo numbers.....
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler." (Einstein)...
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Daniel Santos Special user 562 Posts |
Wow, http://www.hughesmagic.com sure does produce a fine set of plumes. I just watched the whole online catalog! There's some great stuff there! By the way, Mr. Hughes, in your Atomic Cocktail Shaker, was that liquid nitrogen that you used? Thanks! (Sorry I'm a bit off topic!)
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
The Atomic Cocktail Shaker is an old effect that was brought out in 1950's by my mentor Horace Marshall. I borrowed one from a collector and reproduced it for my own act. After 20 years, I decided to make a few up and share all the things I have learned about it in 20+ years of doing it.
The smoking glasses were simply dry ice. It really does make the effect. But most guys will not go to the trouble of getting the dry ice and working with it. So I have an effect that no one else ever does and does register very well. Thanks for the kind words on the website. Hopefully, the full site will be up and running shortly. Sorry, Dan I didn't mean the replies on plumes to be a personal attack. I just know how strong of an effect this is for laymen. There is so much in magic that makes absolutely no sense without patter...Chinese Sticks..Diebrick Die, Cups and Balls...Zig Zags..They don't look like normal things and usually with the correct presentation laymen just don't care.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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