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Xavier

Loyal user
Australia
209 Posts
Posted: Jun 25, 2004 10:14pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Xavier  

Can anyone tell me which is better and why? I love the premise of this routine but have heard it is not as practical as it reads.

I would be very grateful for any more info on these routines.

Warmest regards,

Xavier.
Gianni

Special user
WILMINGTON, DE
989 Posts
Posted: Jun 26, 2004 2:35pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Gianni  

I did have Visa Caberet at one time but sold it. Frankly, the method seemed painfully obvious to me. Although the precise method of knowing is clever, it seems to me clear that the audience will figure out that you know which card is withdrawn from the wallet at any given time. The Dobson effect may be an improvement. I don't know.

My personal view is that with so many great effects to perform, why spend time on this.

Gianni
Colin

Inner circle
Central Scotland
1151 Posts
Posted: Jun 26, 2004 5:20pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Colin  

I recommend you buy Marc Paul's lecture notes...£85 Question.

Colin
asdffdsa

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69 Posts
Posted: Jun 27, 2004 7:54pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of asdffdsa  

Hi Xavier,

If you like this type of effect, I would recommend you check out Free Will by Deddy Corbuzier. The routine can be adapted to other objects as well.
Xavier

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Australia
209 Posts
Posted: Jun 27, 2004 10:03pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Xavier  

Can anyone comment on the Dobson version?

... Thank you!
equivoque

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483 Posts
Posted: Dec 2, 2005 9:17pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of equivoque  

Quote:

On 2004-06-27 19:54, asdffdsa wrote:
Hi Xavier,

If you like this type of effect, I would recommend you check out Free Will by Deddy Corbuzier. The routine can be adapted to other objects as well.




I believe that Visa Cabaret was invented first. Visa Cabaret was invented by Stephen Tucker. While Deddy may not have known about this one effect was produced first. I mention this because a big deal is being made about people borrowing this principle and I feel that the idea originated with Stephen Tucker.
Stephen Long

Inner circle

1479 Posts
Posted: Dec 3, 2005 5:24am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stephen Long  

Yeah, it's Tucker's idea. Tucker's wallet is one of those small, hip-wallets; Dobson's is one of those larger ones. As far as I know, the only difference in these two wallets is their size. Get Tucker's here.

Hello.
equivoque

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483 Posts
Posted: Dec 3, 2005 1:48pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of equivoque  

Any email address for Mr Tucker?
Stephen Long

Inner circle

1479 Posts
Posted: Dec 3, 2005 2:22pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Stephen Long  

I expect he can be contacted at tucker.stephen@virgin.net

Hello.
100ch

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Sheffield UK
43 Posts
Posted: Dec 3, 2005 2:41pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of 100ch  

For midas owners there is an effect called "the heist" that was inspired by this
check mentalismplus.com
Mark Powell

Special user
UK
501 Posts
Posted: Dec 3, 2005 3:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Mark Powell  

For present and perspective owners of the Stealth Assassin Wallet, Peter Nardi details a very nice routine on called Cash Cabaret. It's based on Steve Tucker's Visa Cabaret but uses notes of different denomination instead of credit cards. It's nice and easy to do, leaving time to concentrate on presentation.
slydini

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216 Posts
Posted: Dec 15, 2005 2:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of slydini  

I just got the stealth assassin and cash cabaret was the first effect I did with it. It is a killer routine.
caigy

Special user
England
636 Posts
Posted: Dec 15, 2005 6:50pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of caigy  

Equivoque,
Stephen Tucker also has a well informed website: http://www.stephentuckermagic.co.uk

All the best,
Paul McCaig.

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Tony Curtis

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Bangkok Thailand
687 Posts
Posted: Apr 3, 2006 12:42am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Tony Curtis  

You can see Stephen Tucker's Vi$a Cabaret at www.tonycurtismagic.com

www.tonycurtismagic.com
email: tony@tonycurtismagic.com
the-robot-that-cannot-die

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49 Posts
Posted: Apr 3, 2006 8:22am    Reply with quote   View Profile of the-robot-that-cannot-die  

"the heist" is an absolute FANTASTIC piece of mentalism!!!!
mindcontroller

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Inside your Head!
161 Posts
Posted: Apr 21, 2007 3:23pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mindcontroller  

Hi Bud, I have the Midas but cant find this effect you mentioned on the site, it does seam however that the forum is broke as I type, could you point me in the right direction, Cheers!

MC

Quote:

On 2005-12-03 14:41, 100ch wrote:
For midas owners there is an effect called "the heist" that was inspired by this
check mentalismplus.com

looch

Inner circle
of Doom
2391 Posts
Posted: Apr 21, 2007 4:30pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of looch  

The Heist is no longer availiable, it was a limited edition hand made release that utilised the midas, I have no time to make them now I'm afraid.

funny how you should ask though, I will be releasing a performance piece in the near future that doesn't require the device. The original "Heist" was the foundations and now it has evolved into a 30 min stage piece based around "Criminology" Look out for:

"Heres to you Mr Robinson"


all the best

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Greg Arce

Inner circle

5413 Posts
Posted: Apr 21, 2007 5:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Greg Arce  

For those interested, I'm selling Dobson's:

Wayne Dobson's 3 Choice Trick... never used... $35
http://www.murphysmagic.com/s.nl/it.A/id.5504/.f

Greg

Check out CASH OUT! & The Arce Arsenal at www.freestylebooktest.com/cashout
mesmer

Inner circle

1224 Posts
Posted: Apr 21, 2007 10:07pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of mesmer  

Wich one is better, I think none of them is better than "Free Will" by Deddy Corbuzier, and its much cheaper but you can use the principle for other effects, even for stage show, like james biss did for his musical chair test, try search the Café for review of "Free Will"
Lord Of The Horses

Inner circle

5209 Posts
Posted: Apr 21, 2007 10:11pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Lord Of The Horses  

It is my solid opinion that the best handling for the basic FREE WILL effect by Deddy Corbuzier is Jimmy Fingers' FREE WILL OF ORDER.

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qkeli

Elite user
paris,france
500 Posts
Posted: May 7, 2007 6:40pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of qkeli  

Where can this handling be found please, Jimmy Fingers' FREE WILL OF ORDER ??
Carlo Conjurana

New user

53 Posts
Posted: Nov 16, 2007 10:09am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Carlo Conjurana  

3 choice by wayne dobson is the worst trick and a waist of money I regret buying that trick so obvious to work out and the magician becomes the fooler ???

any one have a ? on that

la Strega
Rupert Bair

Inner circle
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2056 Posts
Posted: Nov 16, 2007 1:36pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Rupert Bair  

I think Dobsons is great. I use the wallet for another FANTASTIC trick. Infact it's probably one the best premise's I've seen in mentalism. GET.

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davidlai308

Veteran user
Kuala Lumpur,Malaysia
359 Posts
Posted: Nov 16, 2007 9:48pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of davidlai308  

Dobson's wallet is a little too large for me allthough the method is very good . It can be adapted on any SUC case too such as the SAW's peek compartment . ON his DVD clamped where he taught the effect , the spectator whom he did it with ( a magician ) was stunned himself on how the effect was done .

-David

See my Malaysian Magician Blog at :
www.mindofdavid.com
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