I would suggest Unseen forces. It comes with 15 loops.
WR

Both have their use. THey can make totally different effects. It all depends what you want. You can buy both anyways, they are expensive.

RydinDubs,

I just checked Jon LeClair's website(http://www.leclairanimator.com/products/index.cfm) and he continues to list both his book ("The Art of Invisible Thread") and the VHS tape ("Who's Afraid of Invisible Thread"). However, this site might need updating becasue I notice that the site does not list that his video is now out on DVD. However, if you are diligent, you can usually find the book on eBay or here on the Café. It is well worth the effort to acquire both the book and the video.

Hope this helps.

Mike


P.S. I just checked your Profile. Thank you for serving your country by being in the military. It is very much appreciated. I still have the LeClair VHS tape "Who's afraid of Invisible Thread" (I "upgraded" to the DVD) and it would be my honor and privilege to send the tape to you at no cost to you if you provide me with your address. The tape no longer has the IT or LeClair putty that originally came with the tape but I'll see if I can round up a little of each and include that also, if you'd like. (It won't be the official LeClair IT and putty but it'll be an acceptable substitute.)

There is a nice book on loop effects at: http://elmagicshop.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=9078&p_catid=&sid=8j4LVH1060A84KY-32104506541.ae.
It is, "Animated Miracles Book," by Mesika.
Richard

I am an avid loops user. Highly recommend them - but, as others have said, check out the Ammar and/or Leclaire videos, play around with regular IT first, to become familiar with the general issues and uses of IT.

On a related note:

Anyone have experience using the TIES system, advertised by Penguin magic?

Also, Penguin is now selling a cheaper alternative to TIES - the Milion Dollar Knot. Anyone have any expereince with this?