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slydini9 New user 71 Posts |
I know that this is going to sound strange, but when I do card magic I am always OOZING with CONFIDENCE---which IS NOT a BAD THING, but people can sense this oozing, and can mistake it for BRASHNESS or even ARROGANCE. I would like to be able to stop this oozing, but I don't want to sacrifice my presentations.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
What specifically lets you know when you ooze?
What specifically lets you know when they detect the ooze? What specifically would you like to ooze?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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slydini9 New user 71 Posts |
I do NOT like to ooze..I do not want ooze anything. My post is about how to stop this "oozing" when I perform. I don't want to NOT have confidence, but I don't like the oozing. Sorry, I thought I made this clear.
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T. Joseph O'Malley Inner circle Canada 1937 Posts |
Do you work off a script? Because if you don't, maybe you could tailor-write one so that it doesn't project the "oozing of confidence" that you don't desire.
No offence. I've never seen you perform, but it sounds like you're worried about appearing arrogant rather than confident (actually you did say that). This is a GOOD thing. It shows you're thinking, and that you care about performing. Writing a script can allow you to create the character that you'd like to be - or at least show non-arrogant sides of yourself.
tjo'
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts |
Hey, at least you're not nervous.
So sit back and enjoy the oozing!
"Your the Italian stallion" As said by my g/friend
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gogeta97 New user 97 Posts |
Haha, you have the exact opposite of the problem I do.
To help with your oozing, you should mess up a few times. It would make you more humble. |
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slydini9 New user 71 Posts |
I don't have a problem with being humble! But I have to ooze SOMETHING otherwise it looks like I am not interested in the performance. Is there a way I can replace the ooze with some other thing?
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Kevin Ram Special user Travelling through Europe 791 Posts |
Has anybody released a DVD on oozing?
Not a book, as I learn better from video.
"Your the Italian stallion" As said by my g/friend
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gogeta97 New user 97 Posts |
Oh! This thread reminds me of that Power Ranger movie from the 90's with Ivan Ooze!
Umm....can you ooze magic? Like a sense of magic? Or mystery? |
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mystre71 Inner circle martinsburg west virginia 1693 Posts |
Slydini9,
Perhaps you could make a few changes in your presentations? Work from a script as posted above. Also you might want to try and take the "Magic" off YOU and give it to your spectators. Example when you snap the card doesn't rise to the top of the deck (D.L.), but when a spectator snaps, that's when the card rises to the top. You also might want to go back and look at the questions Jonathan Townsend posted, because once you can answer those questions, you'll have all the answers you need. Best to you, Joe
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Partizan Inner circle London UK 1682 Posts |
It would seem, Slydini9, that you are the only person who can see this problem. Therefore it is only a problem for yourself.
"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus."
- Mark Twain |
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slydini9 New user 71 Posts |
That last post above was entirely unhelpful. I'm certain I'm not the only magician in the world with an ooze problem. Layymen DO pick up on it.
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Glenn Alloway Regular user Edmonton AB Canada 103 Posts |
I agree with gogeta97.
But don't make mistakes. Just appear not to know what you are doing. Purchase Lennart Green vol.1. It will illustrate my point more clearly. Here is a guy with card skills among the top 10 in the world. In his routines he appears to look sloppy! But he doesn't make mistakes; it is part of his character used to help lead the spectators. He drops cards, his cuts are screwed, and generally bends the heck out of the cards like a layperson would. It helps relate to the audience and demonstrates a lack of card skill. But in the end, he comes out with mind-blowing, earth shattering effects that really take years of skills to perfect. An interesting, non-oozing character, who we can all learn from.
"This is madness and yet there is method in it." ~Shakespeare
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vago Regular user Israel 116 Posts |
And maybe it's just a feeling that you have?A script is a good idea. Try looking at some videos and find an act that suits you better.
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rickmagic1 Inner circle MIddle Tennessee area 1544 Posts |
If I might make a suggestion...
It sounds as though you are quite proud of your skills, no? If that is the case, then change the direction of your love. That's right, your LOVE. One of my favorite performers and magic teachers, Irv Weiner, was a master magician and very skilled technician. Even with that, the performance was about his audience, not his skills, not the tricks, not even himself. When you "ooze" with love for your audience, genuine love for them, they'll love you back, and that sense of "tension" will go away. If that doesn't help, then maybe your doctor could prescribe a cream. Rick
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Shane Wiker Inner circle Las Vegas 1199 Posts |
Try, "Oozing for Dummies," to learn more about oozing and stopping it.
Don't mess up on purpose, or try to act less interested. Instead, try keeping your performance the same, but do one effect that makes an audience member the star and center of attention (like Bill Malone's presentation for the Invisible Deck). If you do one effect where you try to make someone else look good, then people will not think you are trying to show-off, no matter how much you "ooze." Shane Wiker |
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Mike Walton Special user Chicago 984 Posts |
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On 2004-07-24 17:05, Slydini9 wrote: From what you briefly described, it seems you've giving off a sense of over-confidence which has been taken for brashness and arrogance. With what you've described, it's difficult to figure out what you're actually doing to create this "oozing" versus just being confident without the sense of being arrogant. Why specifically do you think spectators think you're being brash or arrogant? What have your spectators said or how have they acted specifically to make you think you are arrogant or brash? Why do you think it has something to do with being overly confident versus a performance style, lack of participant interaction and engagement, type of tricks used? With this information, I believe Café members can truly offer some helpful advice. |
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Reis O'Brien Inner circle Seattle, WA 2467 Posts |
It's not confidence you are oozing, and I think you should see your urologist.
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gogeta97 New user 97 Posts |
Maybe you could watch Office Space and learn to act more like Milton. I don't remmember if that's his name, but he doesn't seem to ooze arrogance.
"I'm going to burn the building down." Haha! Really, though, he does seem rather meek. |
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bvbernard New user North Vancouver, BC, Canada 95 Posts |
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On 2004-07-26 11:09, Firedice27 wrote: Definitely. If your oozing condition does not clear up in 48 hours, see your doctor. What color is the ooze? Have you tried changing the color of the deck you used? |
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