Can a thimble routine be done with a ring routine? Both can be worn in the fingers so I could just ask if can a thimble routine be done on a ring?

Hi,
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are asking. But if you are asking if you can adapt thimble manipulation moves to work with a ring, the answer is "of course"!
Some moves will work better than others and some rings will work better than others but sounds like a viable and clever idea to me. Good luck with it!
-Ed

That's what I'm asking.
I'm sorry if it was not so clear.
Thanks for the reply. Any video where I can learn thimble routines?

Johnny "Ace" Palmer has a quick ring routine he uses while talking about magic. It's quick, takes only a second, and it fits perfectly with his "patter" (I hate using that word!)

Although the techniques can be similar, thimble manipulation would be a bit more difficult with a ring as usually a ring will vanish or reappear completely on the finger instead of just the tips as in thimbles. Also, there's only one ring where there can be many more thimbles so little of what is written about thimbles will translate well to a ring.

Hey DA,

I've done thimble moves with rings on more than one occasion.

There is a limit on what you can do. Rings don't nest and you can't use rings as miniature cups.

Most of the thimble vanishes are possible w/ rings.

Coin sleights work well with rings.

Jeff McBrides ' world class manipulation' dvd's

Has loads of great stuff!

The routines I'm after with a ring routine from a thimble are mainly vanishes, transpositions and reproductions in the hands. I've tried using coin routines with coins but I didn't work well for me.
I'm also after the video of Gregory Wilson called Ring Leader but it seems to be out of stock at most online stores that's why I turned to thimble magic.
Jeff McBride is no doubt good in manipulations. I just don't know if he teaches those moves with vanishes, transpositions and reproductions.

McBride teaches vanishes, productions and colour changes with thimbles.

I found a quick clip of Johnny "Ace" Palmer's ring move at http://www.magicsmith.com/detail.aspx?ID=67

It's about 15 seconds into the intro.

There's an entire routine done with rings in the place of thimbles, including productions, vanishes and changes, in Dr. Sawa's book, written by Kaufman. Check with the magicians in Japan, if you can, they should know it.

Speaking of, Shimada also does a quick bit with a ring, I think he teaches it on one of the Stevens' videos. It seems to be the basis for the Palmer routine.

Thanks Curtis. I'd better start making magician friends.. I never leave the US base so I never get to mingle with our Japanese friends. I'll soon get out there. User Hideo Kato says that Tokyo is full of illusionists and street strollers. I'm visiting it in the weekend..