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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
Other world famous routines performed by the King of magic:
Fred Kaps Coins and Silk (invented by Vernon and taught to Kaps) Fred Kaps Currency Fred Kaps Homing Card Fred Kaps Floating Cork Fred Kaps Chinatown Coin Fred Kaps Purse Fred Kaps Coin Off Ribbon Fred Kaps The Signed Card in Box Fred Kaps Wallet Fred Kaps Sidewalk Shuffle Fred Kaps Matting Copper/Silver Coin Fred Kaps Smoke to Glass Fred Kaps Smoke in Thumb Fred Kaps Migration Miracle, he performed it several times on TV. Fred Kaps Touch Fred Kaps I Am In Debt E-Z Money Fred Kaps & P. Page Curse Of The Rasta Fred Kaps & P. Kane |
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Open Traveller Inner circle 1087 Posts |
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On 2004-11-07 11:11, sidesteal wrote: sidesteal, By all means, if you want to buy printed material from a supplier and sell it, go ahead. That's not a problem. What you seemed to say in your first post was that you simply saw Fred Kaps do a routine on TV, wanted to learn how it was done, and sell it. What I (and I think others) read was that you wanted to sell Fred Kaps's work simply because you were fortunate enough to see a clip of it. No one will raise the slightest complaint if you order and sell Showstoppers With Cards as part of your retail line. But if you sell something called "The Fred Kaps Homing Card Routine," that's a bit different. As far as I can understand the issue, you're not entitled to sell Fred Kaps' work, particularly if your only claim to it is that you simply saw it. Regards... |
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sidesteal New user 12 Posts |
I am sorry for ANY confusion that arose from my original post.
I know enough about Magic to respect the intellectual property of others, respect for originality and Plagiarism. I would never have sold "Homing Card" as a stand alone item - either with or without FK's patter and presentation. But, my original question was "where is its source" and thankfully, that got answered somewhere along the line! Even after buying "showstoppers.." I didn't expect FK's patter to be in there either!!! And I completely recognise the ownership of the effect as FK's. All I was after was to find out its source, I have, I will be selling it - thank you for all the constructive posts on this, and my aplologies to those who took it wrongly and rebuked me. Subject closed ..........? Regards |
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Open Traveller Inner circle 1087 Posts |
Sorry if I sounded harsh. Definitely closed.
And best of luck to you. |
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sidesteal New user 12 Posts |
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On 2004-11-07 07:24, Tielie wrote: It wasnt you that I was offended by Open Traveller......but again, maybe this quote is my fault too..... |
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dannydaniels New user 74 Posts |
I don't know why, but in Germany here, I have learned the Fred Kaps Homing Card marketed under that exact name. It was with Fred's photo on the front, the packet of cards and the complete handling. I borrowed it from my friend (professional magician) and after studying it over, the exact - and I mean EXACT handling (I can follow all the moves on my video of Fred's British TV Special). I then loaned it to another professional magician here, and haven't seen it for years. I perform the routine in the handling that Fred used, but, no one that I know of can come close to his face, his mimics, his smiles, his spirit and his acting. So, even though I can perform it smoothly, I have yet to perform it publicly as much as I would because it's all in the presentation, and I haven't seen anyone come close to that feel that Fred blessed us with.
And, Sidesteal, you site is not yet working. Are you a newcomer to the magic market? I understand that you wanted to market the Kaps Routine, but it has already been done so here in Germany. I just need to get back the 11 x 14 inch booklet (with photos and all) to find out who produced this. But, it is the genuine handling, to say the least. It looks Kaps authorised, but I cannot attest to that at the moment, seeing I don't have the booklet.
I'm not confused... I just don't know yet.
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: I'm pretty sure it's not authorised!On 2005-03-12 06:41, dannydaniels wrote:
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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dannydaniels New user 74 Posts |
[quote]On 2005-03-12 07:08, Werner G. Seitz wrote:
Quote: I'm pretty sure it's not authorised!
On 2005-03-12 06:41, dannydaniels wrote: Will post the details when I get the manuscript back. Pardon my last entry... I don't know how this quote thing works. I wanted your quote in small font, Werner, but got the results above.
I'm not confused... I just don't know yet.
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Glenn Godsey Special user 737 Posts |
One of the most anticipated and hyped moments in television history was the Beatles first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show in 1964. The crowd of teen girl fans was litarally hysterical. What could follow such effusive hysteria? Fred Kaps doing the Homing Card with standard size cards in an auditorium.
Amazingly, Kaps had the audience in the palm of his hand. You can buy a DVD of famous Sullivan shows and see Kaps mastery in action...a great lesson in how to capture and hold the most difficult of audiences. Best regards, Glenn Godsey |
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: Glenn, is that on the *Ed Sullivan Presents the Beatles* DVD or one the *The Beatles - The First U.S. Visit * ?
On 2005-03-13 03:27, Glenn Godsey wrote: Quote: Thanx, that would be interesting..
On 2005-03-13 02:50, dannydaniels wrote: Fact is, that Fred Kaps -of course- didn't release/publish his handling, nor allowed anybody to put it into print, whilst he still was alive, and the only person(s) that would have been able to give permissing where his wife Nel, now deceased, and later his daughters. This is the estate of Fred Kaps..and IF it was released, it most certainly would be via Dick Koornwinder..so I'm pretty sure the manus put out is a pirate- and unauthorised version.
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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Denis Behr Special user Germany 703 Posts |
Does this link work?
Kaps' Homing Card I guess that is the manuscript we are talking about. Brooke is mentioned as one of the authors. Denis |
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
Yes, only prob, I don't speak German
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Quote: Yes, works, and you are no doubt correct..
On 2005-03-13 06:26, Denis Behr wrote: Harald Voit...hmmm For my collection I ordred a copy..don't need it as I have FK on tape, but I'm curious re the write-up and the 'credits'...
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I just saw Bob Sheets do his version a couple of times this weekend - it's excellent! The cards he uses are some Swedish cards available from Denny's Magic. The cards have huge indexes, yet are just a little bigger than poker cards. They can be used with a number of sleights.
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5203 Posts |
Rob Hählen (Holland):
The city of Utrecht (the Netherlands) honors the 3 time world champion of magic Fred Kaps, who died 25 years ago, with a commemorative stone. It will be revealed on March 9 during a closed meeting. The plaquette is situated in front of Peltlaan 79, the place where Fred Kaps lived for many years. http://www.fredkapsdvd.com/ http://www.fredkaps.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Kaps |
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Werner G. Seitz Inner circle 3131 Posts |
Re *The Homing Card*...
First of all remember, nobody can do it the way FK did it and one not even should try to. Re the mentioned german booklet that is supposed to describe the handling of FK, at least technically, let me assure you it doesn't. Save your money, the handling decsribed is not even very close to the way FK did it, especially not the change of the last card. Those interested in doing their own version of the 'Homing Card' should get instead the video from Stevens, where 5 diff. performers are showing THEIR version of this great routine (unfortunately Bob Sheets great version is not amongst them ), and then work on doing YOUR own one..just do me a favour and don't buy that booklet..it is a pure rip-off using the name of FK to sell it.. JMHO..
Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....
( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might as well for YOU!!!- My own magic is styled after that motto... ) |
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frankw Loyal user 205 Posts |
I did know a man, not sure if he lives today, who has a great presentation to. He played a drunk heckler. He interupt the MC at a show and played like everything was cheating and very easy to do. He needs only 5 red cards and ...
It was very funny and entertaining. He uses jumbo cards! The problem was the charakter he plays in this routine. He was a drunk guy and for a longer show he has everything to play as he was drunken. That was the problem that he has with it. But it shows different styles of presentation are possible, and as outstanding Fred Kaps was, this type of presentation was also great and different. Frank |
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