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robb_randall
New user
surprise, arizona
23 Posts
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Posted: Nov 12, 2004 10:54pm
Greetings, all!
I have a question about a "homemade" prop I have in my possession. It is a gimmicked lock that can be used for (among other effects) the standard "Seven Keys to Baldpate" routine. Without (hopefully) giving too much away, it works because the tumblers inside the lock are offset by one notch. In other words, all the keys work when they are inserted "almost" all the way into the lock; conversely, none of the keys work when they are inserted all the way.
My question is this - "What kind of lock is this?" (I've been told it is similar in operation to the "Hemingway" Lock, although I have no way of knowing if this is an accurate assessment.) Also, any ideas on where I could find information regarding the effective routining/handling of said apparatus?
Thanks in advance for your helpful information. (And I apologize if I crossed the "secrets" line; I just didn't know how to describe the lock without describing its function.) Thanks again!
Robb Randall
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Bill Palmer
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Posted: Nov 20, 2004 1:26am
I think that is Stuart Judah's version of it. I have one of those myself. The apparatus looks homemade. It's a door with a couple of hinges, about 9 inches by 12 inches, with a pair of swivel legs on it, so you can stand it on a table.
The lock is a fairly standard-looking Yale lock, if memory serves (mine is in storage right now.) I think it was called "The Keys of Judah."
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London
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Posted: Nov 25, 2004 9:44am
That is correct ..it is the keys of Judah
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Doug Higley
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Posted: Dec 18, 2004 12:05pm
No secrets revealed but: I don't know The Keys Of Judah, my similar working lock is from a different source but the routine that I came up with combines a 'Wallet', the Lock and 4 keys.
Have the spec write a number from 1 to 4 on a biz card and insert in wallet.
Then present the lock. Demonstrate that only one key of the four will open the lock. Have all the keys jumbled up by the spec and each key is put in a seperate envelope. (You can lock the specs ring on the lock at this point to dress it up a bit).
The envelopes are mixed around and THEN the spec writes the numbers 1 thru 4 on the envelopes.
You then reveal to him/her the number he wrote on the card and that that number envelope will contain the right key to open the lock.
As to your 'method' of inserting the keys...not quite the right way. PM me and I'll tell you the 'real' way to do it with this type lock.
Hope that helps.
Doug
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Docc Spurlock
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Chicago & Arizona
164 Posts
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Posted: Dec 18, 2004 6:41pm
Hmmmm.
I just purchased an effect called Monks Key. It works just as robb_randalle described.. I must say, the lock I have is the best of all I have or have seen. It is a very heavy weight lock and was well worth the $18.00 I paid for it on ebay. I say if you are looking for a good piece, then try ebay.. I think he had a few he was selling.
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Julie
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Posted: Dec 18, 2004 11:34pm
The "short key" could also be Ken Allen's (?) Lock of Gilbralter.
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