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paulajayne

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London England
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Posted: Nov 24, 2004 12:25pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paulajayne  

Hi

I am trying to trace the history and users of the Fly topit - I believe Ammar has used it, but who predates this.

Paula

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Frank Starsini

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Northern California
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Posted: Nov 24, 2004 4:10pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Frank Starsini  

I have a fly topit. It's basically my pants pocket.
I rarely use it however.



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paulajayne

Inner circle
London England
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Posted: Nov 24, 2004 4:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paulajayne  

Frank is this the type that fits in your pants in front of the zip? and if so where did you get the information about it?

Paula

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Frank Starsini

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Northern California
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Posted: Nov 24, 2004 4:29pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Frank Starsini  

Really, it's just my pocket. I had a slit cut into the top inside of the left pocket. Maybe this doesn't qualify. If it does qualify, are there prizes involved?

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paulajayne

Inner circle
London England
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Posted: Nov 24, 2004 4:34pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of paulajayne  

Frank

Are you sure this slit is for topit use?

Sorry no prizes - I am doing research into types of topits.

LOL


Paula

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Werner G. Seitz

Inner circle

3132 Posts
Posted: Nov 25, 2004 4:54am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Werner G. Seitz  

IIRC (and this has nothing to do with the fly Topit) somebody (might have been Michael Ammar) did load a selected/signed card via a slit in the normal trouserspocket to be produced from *the fly*...
But that wasn't a *Topit*..

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Bill Palmer

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Posted: Nov 28, 2004 1:20pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

The origin of the "Fly Topit" is quite interesting. The first time it appears in print is 1634, as a marginal note in Hocus Pocus, Junior.

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Posted: Dec 18, 2004 2:16pm
I have a question. How do you get the flies to go into the topit?

Or is this a very small topit worn by flies? Inquiring minds want to know.

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Werner G. Seitz

Inner circle

3132 Posts
Posted: Dec 22, 2004 1:09pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Werner G. Seitz  

Quote:

On 2004-12-18 14:16, Bill Palmer wrote:
I have a question. How do you get the flies to go into the topit?

Or is this a very small topit worn by flies? Inquiring minds want to know.

Flies no problem..avoiding 'bees' is...

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Bill Palmer

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Posted: Jan 4, 2005 11:57pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Bill Palmer  

Actually, if you wear Lederhosen, they have a built in topit.

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Jonathan Townsend

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Ossining, NY
25311 Posts
Posted: Jan 5, 2005 8:28am    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathan Townsend  

I keep expecting someone to make, and offer landing lights for such a thing.

In all fairness, most performers are better off not drawing attention to their crotch area and likewise most audiences prefer to see magic framed by the more acceptable elbows to face area.

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Werner G. Seitz

Inner circle

3132 Posts
Posted: Jan 5, 2005 12:21pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Werner G. Seitz  

Quote:

On 2005-01-05 08:28, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
In all fairness, most performers are better off not drawing attention to their crotch area ..

Jon, isn't a topit considered to be a secret device?
Nobody should get drawn the attention 'down' to a croach area?
But, one never knows..depends on how well it is handled..
I'm not the best example re doing it well..

Learn a few things well.....this life is not long enough to do everything.....

( Words of wisdom from Albert Goshman ...it paid off for him - it might
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Jonathan Townsend

Eternal Order
Ossining, NY
25311 Posts
Posted: Jan 5, 2005 1:38pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of Jonathan Townsend  

Gee Werner, somone making tossing actions at their crotch is gonna catch some attention there ... and the way many performers frame the actoin on the table... asking for trouble.

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daffydoug

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Posted: Jan 7, 2005 10:08pm    Reply with quote   View Profile of daffydoug  

Is this fly topit what I think it is? If it is, then I'm getting the best laugh of the night!

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