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MopKrayz Elite user 423 Posts |
I would like to add a kind of funnel from which smoke comes out, to an illusion box, designed as an old train locomotive.
what is the best way to achive this? there is not enough free space to insert a fog machine inside. Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated. |
Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
Best way to build a fire? Hmmm...let me see...build a fire!
:) I couldn't resist. Seriously though, I believe you can get mini-foggers now. I'm not sure of their size except that they are smaller than standard. If you can't fit the machine in the box, could you run a hose into it and leave the fogger behind the box? Even with a fog machine inside thebox you would have to have wires coming out for power. A hose would be a little harded to deal with, but it might work. Hope this helps. Regan
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
Theatre Effects has the Tiny Fogger. It is just about small enough to palm. It runs off a battery and has a wireless remote. It puts out a lot of fog. So no wires, no duct work.
Let me know if you need more info. Kevin
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Regan Inner circle U.S.A. 5726 Posts |
No wires? Is it battery powered Kevin? That would be cool!
Regan
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
glodmagic Special user USA 501 Posts |
What is the size of the prop and the volume of smoke needed?
You can wire a few model train smoke elements together and use the oil common for that. If it is large Illusion size, the tiny fogger mentioned by Kevin is the perfect choice if you have the $$$ because they are very expensive. The least expenive way is the aerosol can fog called "FG80 Poof! Smoke In A Can" Don't laugh. I have a can rigged in a prop that presses the top of the can to do just this. It would look particularly good for a train because it creates a single blast of fog upwards like a train would each time you depress the button. Theater Effects sells that as well. It is pretty lame for most fog effects but works well for the application that you speak of.
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theaterfreak89 New user 93 Posts |
There are several options that I have used and that work well.
The cheapest and easiest method is to simply duct chemical fog to the location that you need. Simply put any chemical fogger where there is room (behind, next to, or under the prop) then place either PVC or flexible dryer hose 2-3 inches away from the output nozzle of the machine. Then (using the shortest amount on hose possible) place the other end where you want the fog to end up. Be sure to not to put the duct too close to the machine as this will cause backpressure (extraneous pressure on the pump which can cause damage) and lots of oily residue. Be sure to trigger the machine earlier than you need the smoke as it takes a few seconds for the fog to travel through th duct. A second option is to use liquid CO2. This can be obtained from your local welding or dry ice company. The easiest option, however is to to use a fire extinguisher (make sure it is the electrical fire type that acually uses CO2). This will produce a large and thick cloud of white smoke that will dissipate almost instaneously. This is a very surreal effect that looks great when combined with the finale of the illusion. Tiny foggers are great too, but they are not cost effective unless you will be performing this illusion for a long run. These machines however, when combined with a dmx interface and wireless dmx (www.citytheatrical.com) can be controlled from the lighting console and produce spectacular effects. Here are three tried and true options, if anyone needs more ideas, feel free to pm me. Hope this helps, Nick Van Houten
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TaylorTheGreat New user 37 Posts |
How much is that "fog in a can"? I could do well with some of that stuff. How long does the fog last after you spray? I'm 15 so I don't have the $$$ for one of those mini foggers.
Thanks.
-Taylor M
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glodmagic Special user USA 501 Posts |
Hello Tayor,
There are different brands at different prices but it seems to last forever. Price is at about 4 dollars a can. I actually was given 2 cans because the dealer thought it was "stupid". As a fogger it would be ridiculous but as mentioned I use it in a prop to cause a rush of steam as my ventriloquist figure appears. To visualize it, think of what a powerful hair spray can looks like. This looks the same but has a quickly dissipating odorless non flammable water mix that won't stain like hair spray would.
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MopKrayz Elite user 423 Posts |
Thanks for all the info.
At the moment the tiny fogger is too expensive for this one illusion but when I will have performed the show a few times I would for sure think well to invest in this prop. |
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