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kenny kadabra Elite user scotland 450 Posts |
Has anyone bought this effect? Is it as good as it looks? Is it as self working as it seems? can you force any card? Thanx Kenny
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Rennie Inner circle I think I have about 1826 Posts |
Kenny,
I have the effect and have not looked at it in a long time, but as I recall I did not care for the handling.If you are really interested I could go dig it up (I have boxes & boxes of magic) but will try to find it for you.I personally have never seen it performed by anyone except John Kennedy, which I might add is also true of his floating self lighting cigarette. Rennie
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kenny kadabra Elite user scotland 450 Posts |
Thanx Rennie, I haven't seen anyone else do it either ! You mentioned the handling, Is it very complicated or just very noticable ? It does look good though ! Kenny
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Larry Davidson Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts |
I perform it (the original version). It's not "self-working," it's not difficult, and the method is not very noticeable. In my opinion, the only performance consideration is whether or not scattering cards will be an issue in a particular venue (for example, I wouldn't perform it in restaurants).
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
Hi Kenny,
I bought the card stab off of Kennedy himself at an IBM convention in Montreal back in the mid 80's. I don't know where it is anymore, or if I even still have it. I do remember that it was extremely easy to do, literally take it out of the package and read the instructions and you're ready to go. (Not that I or any responsible performer would advocate that you do that) Other than that, I don't really remember much about it. But as to your question, it is not difficult at all to do. Rob |
kenny kadabra Elite user scotland 450 Posts |
Thanx guys, Can you force any card , or is it a one trick wonder?
Think I'm gonna get one ! Didn't know it was on the "go" for so long ! Kenny
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RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
If I remember correct, there is no force. You really can use any card they choose.
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jbmagic12250 New user 49 Posts |
It has been around for a long time. Maybe it's time for a comeback.
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Logan Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Kenny,
I had a look at it, and if I'm not wrong, you have to force a card, though there are ways in which you can get it signed, etc. The box you get with the trick is crucial to the performance - let me just point that out. Also, once you start using the box - you CANNOT have a full deck in it, I think only about 25 cards or so fit in there, I'm not sure, memory isn't cooperating with me right about now. Age old concept - really sneaky method, but it's not for me. It's a little bulky for my taste (since you need the box as well - that and you won't end up with a full deck at the end - or in the beginning, it is completely stand alone) but to each his own. Take care, Logan
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts |
In an old issue of Genii, there is a handling for the kennedy card stab which uses no box at all, only the knife.
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kenny kadabra Elite user scotland 450 Posts |
Thanx Logan, You may have put me off (slightly) Cheers Kenny
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p.b.jones Inner circle Milford Haven. Pembrokeshire wales U.K. 2642 Posts |
Had a look at it, and if I'm not wrong, you have to force a card, though there are ways in which you can get it signed, etc.
The box you get with the trick is crucial to the performance - let me just point that out. Also, once you start using the box - you CANNOT have a full deck in it, I think only about 25 cards or so fit in there, I'm not sure, memory isn't cooperating with me right about now. Hi, Well I think your version of the kennedy stab is different than mine because mine requires no box and no force ! phillip |
Logan Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Hey p.b.
That's odd. But I am quite sure I know which version I'm talking about. You can check the video of it out yourself here: http://www.johnkennedymagic.com/scripts/prodList.asp If there is a new version (which you might have), please tell me more about it kay? I love the card stab concept, but this method is not suitable for me. Take care, Logan
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p.b.jones Inner circle Milford Haven. Pembrokeshire wales U.K. 2642 Posts |
HI,
actually I think mine is an older version same trick but rather than the strange black case a portion of the deck is the gimmick exactly the same method but you do not case the deck I am trying not to give too much away here, I feel the method in the video is a much poorer version Phillip |
RJE Inner circle 1848 Posts |
I'm beginning to think there must be more than one version of this out there. (My computer won't download the video on Kennedy's site, so I haven't seen it.)
Admitedly, my memory is not perfect, but I remember being able to put the whole deck into the card box, not having to force a card, being able to do it anywhere without problems with angles, being able to adapt it to any deck of cards and that it was extremely easy to do. In fact, once you learned the method, I remember being able to do it with a borrowed deck and a borrowed knife. Is there some newer version out there that restricts any of this? |
kenny kadabra Elite user scotland 450 Posts |
Now I'm totally confused ! Thanx anyway guys, Kenny
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Logan Inner circle 2289 Posts |
Since this is a discussion on the Card Stab, which is a common theme in card magic as it is one of the many million ways to reveal a card - just a little more cooler. Due to that fact, I'm quite sure there are other versions of the SAME TRICK, from different creators with different handlings, etc.
But one thing's for sure, this plot rocks - I'm just keeping an eyeball out for a better method. RJE your description: "put the whole deck into the card box, not having to force a card, being able to do it anywhere without problems with angles, being able to adapt it to any deck of cards and that it was extremely easy to do" Is EXACTLY what I'm looking for with a card stab routine/idea. Take care guys, Logan
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runawayjag Inner circle 1085 Posts |
I think the ultimate Card Stabbing type effect is Bob Swadling's Krystal Kard Stab. It is a visual killer, but, like Kennedy's trick, you're going to end up with cards all over the floor, so be sure that suits your venue. And, unfortunately, Swadling's trick cost considerably more than the Kennedy trick
BTW, I just watched the present Kennedy video and MUCH prefer the older version (also Kennedy's) which required neither the black case nor even A card case. It was all in the deck and made a great last effect (who wants to work with cards all over the bar or floor?) In any case, they are both great effects, in my opinion, but Swadling's also has the added visual appeal of unexpected fire. A little side note: Bob's trick is not made of crystal...it is named after his daughter. |
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