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Topic: Slydini
Message: Posted by: magicfish (Jan 25, 2005 10:00PM)
This isn't meant to be a greatest of all time thread, but I just felt in the mood to mention who I feel after 20 years of studying the art of magic is the most wonderful coin handler I've ever seen. That man is Slydini. I cannot stress enough to young magicians the importance of studying Slydini's work.
Slydini was a master magician in every sense of the word.
Message: Posted by: iarwain (Jan 26, 2005 04:10AM)
I've heard a lot about Slydini and seen a lot of his works in print but does there exist any video of him performing anywhere? I've wondered this a long time but I've never been able to find any.
Message: Posted by: mike gallo (Jan 26, 2005 04:25AM)
If you look hard enough, there are videos floating around from Slydini's 3 (I think) appearances on the Dick Cavet show as well as a T.V. special hosted by Fred Kaps and then there was one more T.V. special hosted by Dick Cavet. Also there was an 8mm film of him that was taped by (again I think) Ken Brookes.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Werner G. Seitz (Jan 26, 2005 05:05AM)
[quote]
On 2005-01-26 05:25, mike gallo wrote:
Also there was an 8mm film of him that was taped by (again I think) Ken Brookes.

Mike
[/quote]If I'm not mistaken, the mentioned 8mm movie(s) was/were taped by Lewis Ganson.

The *publisher* was Harry Stanley.

To the best of my knowledge, Ken Brooke *just* was also appearing on those movies, eg. some tapes where he was performing were published too.
Message: Posted by: mike gallo (Jan 26, 2005 05:15AM)
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If I'm not mistaken, the mentioned 8mm movie(s) was/were taped by Lewis Ganson.
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Werner, you are most likely right. As I said, I only thought. All I know is some cool guy that hangs out on the Café sent it to me ;) !!!

Mike
Message: Posted by: Dan LeFay (Jan 26, 2005 05:53AM)
Yea, some people have all the luck. ;)
Message: Posted by: h_A_Z (Jan 26, 2005 08:56AM)
You can find a footage of Slydini himself performing his Slydini Scarves in Tony Clark's Sly Scarves DVD
Message: Posted by: green4magic (Jan 26, 2005 10:28AM)
Tony Slydini was a true master in every way.

I was lucky to have him as one of my teachers in the late 1960's.

The text book we used was his Slydini [b]Encores[/b].

Get this book and learn Slydini's [b]One Coin Routine, Wrong Way Coins, and Unpredictable Coins[/b].

Only by practicing these routines can you feel his true genius.

They are workers. I still do them today, 38 years later! That defines a classic.
Message: Posted by: W.F. Lewis (Jan 26, 2005 11:28AM)
Cellini mentioned in his lecture that he has a small pile of 8mm footage of Slydini that he plans on releasing on one of his upcoming DVD's.
Message: Posted by: Craig Ousterling (Jan 26, 2005 11:32AM)
I have a vhs tape (extremely poor copy of a copy of a copy) of one of his DC show appearances. He is one class act. It reminds me of a time when there were a lot more 'public gentlemen' around.

Craig
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 26, 2005 11:54AM)
The mention of "Wrong Way Coins" brings back the memory of Slydini NAILING me badly with that... then he graciously taught this to me and now I NAIL with it.
Message: Posted by: W.F. Lewis (Jan 26, 2005 12:10PM)
[quote]..the text we used was Slydini Encores.
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Which is now available on cd-rom!!!
Message: Posted by: BWind (Jan 26, 2005 01:26PM)
Speaking of Slydini's Silk Knots, I witnessed a guy named Allen Okawa perform the effect at a lecture using those "tall cylindrical glass tumblers"; It was a thing of beauty, almost verbatim, right out of the Fulves Slydini Book; Did he teach it, no;
BWind
Message: Posted by: iarwain (Jan 26, 2005 02:44PM)
Bah, is everything for sale? I don't feel much like paying for a poor VHS copy of Slydini performing on Cavett. They should stick a clip or two on the internet somewhere for free on one of his biographical sites.
Message: Posted by: Cpontz (Jan 26, 2005 06:44PM)
All you Slydini fans might like this link http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=97477&forum=134&start=0
Message: Posted by: Craig Ousterling (Jan 27, 2005 04:14PM)
Iarwin...

Where can you buy a poor VHS copy of Slydini performing on Cavett?

~Craig
Message: Posted by: iarwain (Jan 27, 2005 04:37PM)
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Iarwin...
Where can you buy a poor VHS copy of Slydini performing on Cavett?
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Are you looking for one? You said you had a poor copy of a poor copy.
I Googled it and what came up was some online auction sites and some VCDs. These types of things are generally poor quality so I just assumed. Not sure if you can still get any of these things now.
Message: Posted by: Craig Ousterling (Jan 27, 2005 04:51PM)
I had no idea people are actually selling these. I'm not looking for them.

I just wish I had seen him perform live. I got mine from Mark Bellinger who loaned me a tape of the DC show 10ish years ago and I copied it, and judging by the quality of the tape it seems he did the same... thus the copy of a copy of a copy.

~Craig
Message: Posted by: wally (Jun 14, 2005 01:35PM)
I have got the Bill Malone DVD on Sly Silks, but want to learn the Tony Clark Travelling Knot from 2 glasses. Don't say I have to buy another dvd to learn this.
Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (Jun 14, 2005 02:12PM)
On Tony Clarks Timing Is Everything DVD, there is footage of Slydini performing paper balls in the hat, using a cardboard box. It also has Tony's renditions of all of Slydinis classic effects. But don't just stop at buying the video, which can be found here:
http://allmagic.com/spin/spins/clarkslydini.html

Also pick up the 2 volume magic of Slydini set by Lewis Ganson and Annotated Slydini.....
[url=http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.cgi?client=72152951&action=detail&item=005188]dennymagic.com[/url]

both are worth while, and worth every penny. The lessons in misdirection taught in the paper balls over the head are priceless..but the book runs about 60 bones......lol

:rabbitfromhat:
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jun 14, 2005 02:30PM)
If you have a chance to meet up with J. P. Laramee in NYC... do so.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jun 14, 2005 02:54PM)
Green4magic hit it. I second his message.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Muggle (Jun 15, 2005 12:31AM)
Just ask magicians that you know to see if anyone has any old footage. I transferred mine onto DVD and archived my old VHS tapes. Some footage is degraded; but most all of it looks great for its age. After watching Slydini perform I found myself re-evaluating everything that I do in performance. If you can find a copy of the footage you will find much value by having it in your library, so keep looking.

My favorite segment on tape is Slydini's endless bare handed silk production. After producing numerous large silks (estimated about 14 or so), Slydini ends with a jumbo American flag production.

The American flag filled up the whole TV screen and was a great ending.

MM
Message: Posted by: harris (Jun 15, 2005 12:49PM)
Back in 81 I took the opportunity to take group lessons with Tony Slydini.

It was money well spent. Of course one must use their own mannerism in emulating his work. A relative of his, writes in a column in the L.R. and occassionally post on the Café.

Be safe, well and creative.

Harris
Message: Posted by: wally (Jun 16, 2005 03:22AM)
I will exchange Jeff McBride's Manipulation DVD for Tony Clark's Slydini Scarf DVD. I live in UK. I bought the Bill Malone DVD to learn Sly routine, but I want to learn the Travelling Knot.
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jun 16, 2005 10:23AM)
So who owsn the lewis ganson stuff...where isa it ...i have the cellini 8 mm stuff and it will be released on a future project

kozmo
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Brown (Jul 5, 2005 04:01PM)
I have both of the Cavett appearances on DVD. I got these from a friend who had them on VHS. They are classic and I have most all of his books minus one set. Slydini is a master in every sense of the word. I mean look at it. Simple yet SO EXTREMELY complicated. He is one of my top 5 favorite magicians, and most everyting you need to know about performance, misdorection and technique can be learned from him. THROW THE SLEIGHTS OUT THE WINDOW! Learni his timing and technique for performance, and you will be armed with a powerful tool that can make any of your current magic SO much stronger.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (Jul 5, 2005 07:22PM)
Amen Brotha......lol :applause:

who else wants to testify!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jul 5, 2005 07:35PM)
It's one thing to imitate, another to have learned from him. The guy was special. He is gone. What's left are some books, a few video clips and lots of memories from folks who took lessons and knew the guy.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Brown (Jul 5, 2005 08:10PM)
Very true Jonathan. Imitation is not what I nor many others I know who study his work are going for. I think most of us more or less just want to understand the principles that made his magic so memorable and so beautiful. It is a shame we don't have more footage of him so that we can see more of his talent. Hopefully out there is the "Holy Grail" maybe some old film of him performing privately etc...who knows. For now, I'm satisfied with what I have.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: Gary Dayton (Jul 5, 2005 08:53PM)
I was another of those fortunate to have taken a couple of lessons from Slydini back in the early-1970s. I wasn't friends with him, just one of his occassional students. Encores is a great book and was also the text used -- I have notes from then on Tony's instructions written in the margins. Karl Fulves published two excellent volumes of much of Slydini's work. The first volume, The Best of Slydini ... And More, has exacting descriptions of Slydini's close-up methods on misdirection, body language and movement, timing, etc. I think (for whatever it's worth) this is the best material available on Slydini.

Someone mentioned the Helicopter Card -- this was the first effect I ask him to perform for me in his NYC studio. It was heaven. He wasn't really known for his card work, but he handled a deck just wonderfully. His "Invisible Pass" is truely that, and quite different in execution than most passes.

We had him for a few group lessons at our local SAM as well. And, it's true, we all mimiced him shamelessly, including the accent! But I think about what Whit Hayden has said about imitating the classics. You copy to learn from the master, as an apprentice would. Slydini had such a completely thought out method that strict imitation may very well be the best way to learn it.

My favorite trick from Slydini is perhaps one of his simplest, "Interlude with a Paper Knapkin." If ever there was a perfect trick, yielding tremendous impact for what has to be considered beauty in the sheer economy and efficiency of the method, the Interlude has got to be it.
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Jul 5, 2005 09:02PM)
I first met Tony in 1976, at The House of Magic, in San Francisco. Tony was a good friend of Palmer Tilden's, the owner of Sterling Magic at the time. Whenever he came to SF he stayed with either Palmer, Bill Whittington, or Gene Matsuura. Gene became one of Tony's best friends ever, and has written the Annotated Magic of Slydini. In fact, he and Tony were working on several books when Tony died. Gene was one of the pallbearers at a very private burial ceremony for Tony.

Anyway, I was friends with all the guys from SF, so naturally, when Tony came to town they introduced us. Tony was one of the kindest, most gentle, men I have known, right up there with Jack McMillen. Over the years, everytime he was in SF, Tony stopped into the magic store, where I worked. We became good friends. Eventually, because I had a large apartment right in downtown SF, Tony would stay with me when he came to town. This was great for me. He insisted on teaching me his magic, and refused to take anything for the lessons!

Everything folks have said about Tony's teaching methods is correct. He was like a drill sargeant. He insisted that you copy him exactly, until you could do the magic as he did it. What most people don't understand, usually because they stopped taking lessons too soon, is that once you reached that level of understanding, Tony EXPECTED you to change things. His problem was that he didn't know how to communicate his magic in any way OTHER than to have you copy him. He didn't have the language skills to communicate the subtle nuances of his magic, the misdirection, the timing, the mental gymnastics. So, in order to help you "get it" he forced you to copy and hoped that once you could do the magic, you would figure out how to adapt it to your own personality. IF you stuck with him long enough, he would help you with that, too. I remember going to Tony after months of work on a trick. I had learned it as he wanted me to. Then, I had adapted. He watched the adaptation and told me what he thought...

We worked on it and worked on it. And what I learned was timing, timing timing. I also learned WHY Tony used SHORT phrases: (1.) Look, Watch (2.) Come close, Hold tight, (3.) Can you see? Did you feel? (4.) Come a lttle closer..., Don't look away..., (6.) If you don't watch, you can't see..., I'll do it again, don't look away!

Each of those phrases has a DIFFERENT number of words, different number of syllables. So each filled a different length of TIME. This is one of the secrets to Tony's magic. He picked those phrases carefully, to help him with the timing of his moves...

Another thing that few people realize is that Tony did the opposite of what many people think he did. You've heard, I'm sure, the idea that Tony made the magic fit his natural mannerisms. No! He did not do that. He STARTED doing that, finding things that suited him. But he soon realized that he didn't have ENOUGH natural mannerisms to cover all the things he needed to do to make the magic happen. So, Tony DEVELOPED mannerisms PURPOSELY. He made a CONSCIOUS EFFORT to change the way he sat, gestured, relaxed; he added things to his natural body language. And he practiced those things until they BECAME natural to him. Then he used them to cover the sleights!

There is MUCH more to the psychology of Slydini's magic, but that gives you an inkling of how very involved it really is, and why so few people can really do it justice. I have a lot of video of Tony. All the Cavett shows, most of the commercial stuff, and some home video that has never been released. I watch from time to time, and it is like seeing real magic again. He was a master. There were few as good, none better. I was blessed to spend time with Tony, and I'm grateful for the lessons, and the friendship.

I remember seeing him do the Linking Pins for the first time. I had known him for a while by then. Still, he fooled me so badly I thought he was, well, I didn't know what I thought! I knew the Andrus stuff, I knew Piff Paff Poof, I knew all kinds of things with Pins, but not this! And I thought I knew Tony. But again he fooled me. No matter what you read, no matter how well you knew him, if Tony could move your mind just an inch off center, then he had you! And he could ALWAYS move your mind that inch! At least he could always do it to me...

It would be nice to do a website with performance-only video of Tony. I would give up the footage I have, if someone could do the site. It would be a fitting memorial to the man - one of the geniuses of close-up magic, and one that he deserves. More importantly, I think, it would benefit SO many modern magicians, to see a master do the material you can only read now. It is impossible to visualize Tony's work from the written word. You really have to see it to fully appreciate it.

The Han Pien Chien is an example. I think the way Tony did it is an abomination. The original, in the air, method is far superior in terms of technique. But that is irrelevant when it come to the performance. With the Slydini handling his method comes alive. But you HAVE to see it to really understand it. It is just that simple...

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Brown (Jul 5, 2005 09:18PM)
Thank you Paul......Thank you....You talk like about your teacher like a true apprentice would. That shows the impact of his magic.

Jonathan
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jul 5, 2005 11:54PM)
You're right about the HPC move ala Slydini... I wouldn't do it any other way`... because in the context of the routine IT IS PERFECT. I gave Tony Clark a bad time for showing a different way in his videos on Slydini's magic.

I too was part of that SF group that became close friends with Slydini and spent a lot of time with him there and on my trips to NY City... time in his studio, going to dinner, having Persi come in at the same time and sessioning with Tony and Persi... what great lessons and memories.
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Jul 6, 2005 10:23AM)
Here are a few more memories...

You know, the thing about Tony was - he liked people! And they knew it. His eyes would twinkle, if that's possible, everytime he started to perform. And he had an impish way about him, he loved a good "leg-pull". I remember him doing all kinds of jokes on people.

When he came into the magic store I worked in he would do magic with the "slum" sometimes. I remember his handling of Martin Sunshines' "Color Vision Box". I think it was finally published in "Pallbearer's Review". Tony took a $2.00 slum magic trick and made a miracle of it, the cube disappeaaring from the box as a finish! Seasoned magicians were suddenly buying "Color Vision". Imagine! His "Linking Rings" were beautiful, as was his "Fountain of Silks".

Once, while he was visiting in SF, I introduced him to a friend of mine, an amateur magician. The fellow was also the top eye surgeon in country, pioneering corneal transplants, a new surgery at the time. Well, Doc invited us to his home for dinner. After dinner he took Tony to his study, to show him some of the magic he had, as well as his library. He also had a new thing, he was using it in surgery. It was called a video recorder! This was about 1978, and home recorders were just coming out and cost a fortune, but Doc had the latest equipment, and knew how to use it.

Tony asked if we would like to see some magic. Of course all the guests, there were five of us, responded enthusiastically, and Doc asked Tony if he could record the show. Tony agreed, and then began the show. Wow! First off, he did the "Helicopter Card". Followed this with coins, then the silks. And then, a lesson! All unsolicited. Tony was having fun, enjoyed dinner, liked the company. So, he shared his magic with us, and let Doc record it for posterity. What a great night that turned out to be, and typical of the generosity that Tony displayed all the time I knew him.

Tony once told me to "watcha the eyes, it's ina the eyes..." He was telling me to make eye contact with the spectator, that not only could I see what they were thinking if I did that, but that I could KEEP them from seeing what I was doing! In that short phrase he'd conveyed another of the secrets to his magic...

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (Jul 6, 2005 07:56PM)
I am not the one to ask about Slydini, but I can tell you that his Unpredictable Coin routine is absolutely amazing.
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Jul 6, 2005 09:21PM)
PSC,

Thanks so much for the fascinating info. I had heard from a number of magicians who took lessons from Slydini that he insisted that they copy him exactly, which I found very odd. Now I understand why, and it's good to know that he expected students to eventually change things, something that the students I spoke with never told me, possibly because they didn't take lessons from him long enough.

Larry
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Jul 7, 2005 11:00AM)
Even more than me, Gene Matsuura understands Tony totally. If you ever have a chance, corner Gene at a convention and ask him to talk about Slydini. He spent literally HUNDREDS of hours with Tony, analysing and recording Tony's magic. The Annotated Magic of Slydini is just one of the results of that time...

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: Wizzard (Jul 8, 2005 07:26PM)
Paul,
You have a gift to understand the difference between those who make "Magic" and those who do tricks!
Mr. Slydini was a captivating person-'Drew you in' and had that special quality that made you feel like you were the only one he was performing for. The ability to 'capture' an audience as he did is truly a Learned Art, that unfortunatly is not taught enough today, if at all.
Thanks for the Memories!
Regards,
Wizzard
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Sep 18, 2005 03:00PM)
Paul, I read your wonderful posts with tears in my eyes. Your generous sharing those little known facts about Slydini have fed a hungry soul...ME!!

Honest to God, I can't seem to get enough! The more I learn about Tony and his magic, the more my appetite grows. It's been this way for over twenty years.

I'm into veneration here...and I can't help it.
Message: Posted by: perlimpinpin (Sep 19, 2005 03:21PM)
Paul

Fascinating information about Slydini. I can only contribute that I have accumulated as many documents about him that I can find, in my case mostly books and video clips, only commercially published things. Assimilating
the material is very challenging of course, but I did manage to grasp some of it, and when I re-read it every now and then I grasp additional details.

About the different sentence lenghts he used, may I ask you, would it be that each length made it possible to maintain adequate audience interest to cover specific moves ? Maybe the Imp Pass required one type of sentence length, while a given lapping move might require another ?

Best regards,
Daniel
Message: Posted by: gene plampin (Sep 19, 2005 04:43PM)
I'm not sure if this is connected with the length of Slydini's sentences, but I have heard that relazation and tension were very important, and that Slydini did the moves while relaxed and used tension to focus attention when there was nothing to see. I think his short sentences like "Watch" are a way of creating tension and directing attention.

Gene
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Sep 19, 2005 04:48PM)
Slydini was a magician who proved the power of scripting (words, body movements, etc). Why many other magicians don't focus on doing the same is beyond me.
Message: Posted by: T. Joseph O'Malley (Sep 19, 2005 05:09PM)
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It would be nice to do a website with performance-only video of Tony. I would give up the footage I have, if someone could do the site. It would be a fitting memorial to the man - one of the geniuses of close-up magic, and one that he deserves. More importantly, I think, it would benefit SO many modern magicians, to see a master do the material you can only read now. It is impossible to visualize Tony's work from the written word. You really have to see it to fully appreciate it.
[/quote]

I hope to goodness that some computer/internet savy person takes Mr Chosse up on this generous offer sometime...
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Sep 19, 2005 05:29PM)
[quote]
On 2005-09-19 17:43, gene plampin wrote:
I'm not sure if this is connected with the length of Slydini's sentences, but I have heard that relazation and tension were very important, and that Slydini did the moves while relaxed and used tension to focus attention when there was nothing to see. I think his short sentences like "Watch" are a way of creating tension and directing attention.

Gene
[/quote]

You are precisely correct. When Slydini said, for instance "This coin is going to [i]disapear[/i]!" His eyes and facial expression would brighten, and his body language would lean slightly toward the spectator. Then there would be a moment of total relaxation while the la***g move occured. (During this time frame, the face eyes and body would totally relax for a brief moment while the hand contacted the edge of the table).

Then he would brighten again as he said "[i]Watch[/i]!" This way, he totally controlled the audiences attention and focus. It was pschologically perfect, and it fooled you even if you [i]knew[/i] what he was doing! The misdirection was impossible to resist!
Message: Posted by: perlimpinpin (Sep 28, 2005 03:23PM)
Paul,

COuld you tell us more about how Slydini used the length of his sentences in the context of direction / misdirection ?

listening VERY closely
Daniel
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Sep 28, 2005 03:35PM)
[quote]
On 2005-09-19 18:09, T. Joseph O'Malley wrote:
[quote]
It would be nice to do a website with performance-only video of Tony. I would give up the footage I have, if someone could do the site. It would be a fitting memorial to the man - one of the geniuses of close-up magic, and one that he deserves. More importantly, I think, it would benefit SO many modern magicians, to see a master do the material you can only read now. It is impossible to visualize Tony's work from the written word. You really have to see it to fully appreciate it.
[/quote]

I hope to goodness that some computer/internet savy person takes Mr Chosse up on this generous offer sometime...
[/quote]

Yes, someone please do. This would be wonderful. Slydini is one of the few magicians that I haven't seen that I desperately want to see perform. From what I've heard and read and the few resourses that I own that have some of his material, it's clear this was one of the special guys.
Message: Posted by: snushy (Dec 7, 2005 10:35AM)
Though I never had the priveledge of taking lessons directly from Slydini, I am an absolute devotee of his work. I first encountered him at a Tannen's Jubilee in the early '70s, and I was hooked.
In the fall of 1974 I had my Bar Mitzvah. As a surprise gift, my father hired Slydini to perform! I was in heaven. Back then, my father was involved in a company which was making its first tentative steps into the video age. We had a guy with a huge camera shoot most of the ceremony and reception on 1/2 inch, reel-to-reel video tape. Included in the shoot was Slydini's performance. He did most of his classic repertoire, including his sponge balls, coins thru the table, helicopter card, cigarettes, etc. Then he stood up on the table and did his classic rope routine, and he concluded with the flight of the paper balls.
A few weeks later my family watched the tapes, and then the reels were stored in the basement.
Over the decades the video was degraded by moisture. We tried to transfer it onto VHS to no avail. Finally, a few months ago, we found someone who could salvage whatever was salvagable and put it on DVD. It worked!
Unfortunately, the cameraman didn't know what he was doing, was a bit far away from the action, and Slydini wasn't miked for sound. There are priceless snipets, though, and both the rope and flight of the paperballs routines came out pretty well. The first time I played the DVD, and heard Slydini utter his famous "you know why you don't see? You don't watch! You gotta watch!!" I almost cried. It brought it all back.
Anyway, I got the new "As I Recall" DVDs and I've been thinking a lot about Slydini, so .........
L. Zaslow
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 7, 2005 11:01AM)
Larry, that's fantastic you have that.

I have been watching the new DVDs and find them to be wonderful.
The interview with the one magician who's wife stayed up all night
making Tony do more and more was priceless.

Usually the magic does not come thru so much without an audience on a DVD.
I cannot tell you how many coin videos I've slept thru. Not this one.
This is the first DVD where I think an audience might just get in the way.

I'll be working on these routines for sure.
Message: Posted by: Salazar Magic (Dec 12, 2005 11:27AM)
There's a video of Slydini doing Coins Through Table for the Dick Cavett Show on http://www.MagicVideoArchives.com Disc #41
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Dec 12, 2005 11:52AM)
WOW WHAT A SITE... how does he do it?
Message: Posted by: boydy (Dec 12, 2005 12:19PM)
I have web design skills and I'm up for building it if you want.

Boydy
Message: Posted by: Parcifal (Dec 12, 2005 02:23PM)
Have a look at http://www.dovemagic.com/Videos and look for tape/DVD 323.
Or easier,type Slydini in your browsers searchoption (CTRL+B) when entering the site.Lots of Slydini tapes/DVDs available there,if he still sells them.
DVD 323 is a great capture of one of the Dick Cavett shows where he does a lot of his work,se for yourself a dscription is at that site.
Here is a snipping of contents:

TAPE 323 Betamax Tape Quality = Very Good. MCMW. This tape has been transferred to DVD.

Slydini ON DICK CAVETT 1978
cig prods,
5.40 silver dollars - coins thru table
one coin routine
11.25 Slydini knots
17.10 c/r rope
23.38 t/r newspaper

Slydini ON DICK CAVETT

26.00 sympathic silks
30.50 knots
coins
paper balls in hat ( box )
paper balls over the head
51.26 END
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 12, 2005 02:49PM)
Why not just buy the new Slydini DVD set and you'll have everything you need.
Check your local shop to see if they are in stock.
Message: Posted by: Parcifal (Dec 12, 2005 02:50PM)
You would be surprised how much there is on these DVDs that is not
on the 2 DVD set, not to mention the great close-up camerawork!
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 12, 2005 02:59PM)
Yes, I can see that. great.
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Dec 12, 2005 05:20PM)
Cavett would not let us use his material...he says he loves magic and he loved Slydini but he wont let anyone see them...oh well....
koz
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Dec 12, 2005 05:40PM)
And I odnt know how anyone can legally sell dvd's with the cavett material on them because cavett never liscensed anyone
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 12, 2005 05:45PM)
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On 2005-12-12 18:20, tedb wrote:
Cavett would not let us use his material...he says he loves magic and he loved Slydini but he wont let anyone see them...oh well....
koz
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I wonder why someone would do this? Ego? A sense of Control? I don't get it.
Message: Posted by: Parcifal (Dec 13, 2005 08:47AM)
Dick Cavett is 69 years old by now and it might not even be him owning the rights to his show?He was employed by ABC from 1969 to 1974 (1975?)to run the Dick Cavett show.Though his shows later continued by CBS 1975,by PBS(Public Televison) 1977–82 by USA 1985–86 again by ABC 1986–87, by CNBC 1989.That 1978 capture might be owned by PBS?But Slydini appeared on various of Cavetts programs,so a couple of networks might have diff. captures,it's a jungle.
Also an explanation why he didn't make the Slydini captures available to the producer of this 2 DVD set might be here: Cavett is manic-depressive, a condition he's dealt with since his first major depression in 1959. He started and lost a nationally syndicated radio show in 1996 in just two weeks, when depression kicked in and he simply stopped showing up. He's on antidepressants, and went through electroshock therapy in 1992.
Message: Posted by: perlimpinpin (Dec 13, 2005 02:18PM)
About Cavett it's surprising because on one of the two recorded shows I know of, he specifically says that his intent in having Slydini on the show is to SAVE THE IMAGES of him performing, for posterity's sake.

The Cavett recordings are really, really good.

D.
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Dec 13, 2005 02:20PM)
Yea well, that all sounds nice now doesn't it
koz
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Mar 7, 2007 01:57AM)
Dick Barry has a video of his version on his website, very nice performance at the Castle.
Message: Posted by: fifthace (Mar 8, 2007 12:42PM)
Excellent Cavette clip on YouTube
Search: Slydini
Message: Posted by: e-man (Mar 9, 2007 02:27AM)
Slydini was on a Thanksgiving TV special hosted by Bill Bixby I beleive,74 or 75 he did the Paper balls routine.I saw one of his performances at Mostly Magic in the village N.Y and got to meet him.(very nice gentleman) Al Goshman was in the audience.
Message: Posted by: CasualSoul (Mar 17, 2007 04:38PM)
This is a great thread here that has been resurrected. The 2 dvd set "As I Recall" is a tribute to Slydini and likely has the most actual performance footage from the master himself.
Message: Posted by: magicians (Apr 1, 2007 07:25PM)
In 2000, I bought a collection of out-take photos from the stars of magic book. They were sequential black and white photos of Slydini. I sold over 300 single shots which were just still shots holding props. One group was a succession of Slydini doing rings. I scanned them and put them in a flash sequence. I probably could do a better job today but if anyone wants to see them:
http://bigduck.tripod.com/slydini.html
Let me know if you are able to see them. Slow load for me on dial-up. just under 4mb.
-Magic Ian
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Apr 2, 2007 08:40AM)
Are there any DVDs out showing how to do Slydini's Torn and Restored Newspaper?
Message: Posted by: aiturran (Apr 2, 2007 12:01PM)
You can find it on "The Magic Of Slydini" book.

Gene Anderson also has one of the best T&R Newspaper routines around, also recommend you to check that out.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Apr 2, 2007 12:53PM)
Thanks. I already know Anderson's, Osterlind's and Bauer's method. Someone refered Slydini techique because I'm performing "Dove from Newspaper" after it is restored.