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Topic: Card Guards
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Sep 14, 2001 01:45AM)
Someone gave me one of those metal card guards that were so popular among magicians a few years ago.



It does help keep the cards from warping, and often gets a raised eyebrow from spectators as I bring it out. A nice touch.



However, I'm not sure I would have bought one myself.



Question: Do you use one of these? Why?

:bigdance:
Message: Posted by: Trickster (Nov 13, 2001 11:16AM)
I've used one for years. It puts a little wear and tear on the box. I think it adds character to it. I always know that when I pull my cards out that they are flat and ready to go.



It does get a look from people. Usually it makes the "heckler" in the audience change his attitude. As soon as people see the guard, people seem to think differently about you. I don't know how to describe it.



I never leave home without it.



RDS :dance:
Message: Posted by: Jim Davis (Nov 13, 2001 12:24PM)
I use one.. but I took it to a tatoo artist and had him engrave an Ace of Spades on it.. Now it looks like it should have sold with cards to begin with.. I do use it to keep track of a stacked deck in a pocket too.. so when I need a specific deck I can grab for it.. just and idea or two! :wow:
Message: Posted by: Trickster (Nov 13, 2001 01:32PM)
I was thinking about getting it engraved. I just never really thought about what to put on it. A couple of my friends said to make it into a card revelation. I didnít like that idea.



I like the Ace of Spades idea though. I still think Iím going to leave mine blank though. It gets pretty scratched from being used and carried everyday and everywhere.



RDS :dance:



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Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Nov 13, 2001 03:28PM)
I have one. I like the idea of getting it engraved. Maybe an Ace of Spades with "Great Scott! It's Magic!" written around it. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Steve Landavazo (Nov 26, 2001 07:06PM)
What a terrific idea having it engraved!
Message: Posted by: Fredrick (Nov 30, 2001 03:17PM)
I have a couple of close friends who swear by these devices, but I have wondered if they make people suspicious of the cards?

What has been your experience?

Do the cards last longer?

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Be well ~ Fredrick
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Dec 1, 2001 02:39AM)
It does seem to keep the cards from warping.

Though I must admit, a deck of Bikes goes dead on me pretty quick. :nose:
Message: Posted by: kingsnqueens (Dec 17, 2001 11:33PM)
Hi, I just thought Iíd add my two cents worth. I use a card press similar to Norm Nelsenís. Only I make my own.



I use mine only to store my cards in. Before my performance I remove them from the press that allows me to inspect them, and powder them if necessary.



I donít want the audience to think the cards I use are anything but a normal deck. Just like they use.



Also the press keeps my fanning decks, and split fan decks in good order.



All this is for my cards I perform with. I also use the press to keep my practice decks in good shape. Now you know why I make my own card presses... Thanks
Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Dec 18, 2001 02:22AM)
Hi,

Sorry guys, but I wonít use one, because, I want the deck to warp/concave, as it makes for better double lifts, double pushoffs, breaks above reversed cards to name just a few things

phillip
Message: Posted by: Joe (Jan 10, 2002 08:25AM)
I agree with Kingsnqueens in a way, I donít want people to be distracted. Also the one I use is quite a tight fit and removing the cards is not always a quick thing to do. They are good for straightening cards or a few gaffed cards/packet, but mine never leaves the house.

Joe :cool:
Message: Posted by: Carl Andrews (Mar 2, 2002 02:55AM)
I like to use a fresh deck for each performance so I don't have to worry about warping or the cards lasting very long. I buy them a dozen at a time in a case at Costco wholesale club for little more than a dollar a deck. A small price to pay for a new fresh deck for each show. Just my 2 cents.
Message: Posted by: r4bid (Mar 20, 2002 04:38PM)
I use one, carrying a deck with me everywhere I go puts a lot of strain on the box. If I don't keep them in one of these then the box starts to come apart after only a few days, in the case I have had a deck for over two weeks with no damage to the box except some scratches from the edges of the case.

a bit expensive but it gets great reactions, when I pull it out people really take me serious. The only problem I have with it is that its rather expensive and I don't want to buy another. This means that if I buy a gaffed deck I would have to not carry around my normal one as people would be suspicious when they see me take out a deck not in my infamous case. :cry:
Message: Posted by: craig fothers (Mar 20, 2002 07:45PM)
I haven't invested in a card-guard yet... but I have got a very nice plastic lunchbox that I carry my decks around in! LOL :)

Yeah... it doesn't look very professional... but for getting around, there is nothing better - and the real advantage is that it doesn't let (damp) air get into the cards and warp them. The next stop is the card-guard for actual performances... :)

vive la :bluebikes:
Message: Posted by: Tricky (Mar 24, 2002 07:34AM)
You could use one to add an extra level of impossibility in an ambitious card routine, or engrave the name of a card on it, then for the final phase, put the card in the middle and show not only has it gone to the top of the deck, but onto the card holder as well.
Message: Posted by: Brad Jeffers (Apr 22, 2002 04:17PM)
How about the Joe Porper card guard? This sells for $30 as opposed to others, that go for about $15. Is it worth twice the price? What's the difference?
Message: Posted by: Magique Hands (Apr 29, 2002 04:20AM)
In getting back to the 'Card Keepers' (the metal holders to keep cards from warping)...

Am I missing something here? I've used them to keep my cards warp free for a number of years now, but, before I do my show, I take the cards out of the device, and just take the cards with me. I've never had the cards 're-warp', while they've been out of the device for that long of a time. The audience members never even see the metal device, it's at home.

To keep your card boxes from getting all scratched up, wrap a few sheets of wax paper around the box. The device will rip the wax paper, long before it does it's thing on the card box.

- - Troy
Message: Posted by: Corey K (May 8, 2002 05:46PM)
I liked Tricky's idea of having a card engraved on it, or maybe just the name of the card. You could do some kind of revelation at the end with the card guard being on the table the whole time.

Just an idea...

-Corey
Message: Posted by: MarkAllison (May 13, 2002 09:38AM)
Derren Brown does a psychological force of a card which he has engraved on a lighter. Engraving said, force card on a Card Guard would be a good way of launching in to a card routine.

Cheers

Mark
Message: Posted by: Manipulix (May 13, 2002 01:07PM)
I use my Card guard since the Olympics in Atlanta. I use it for the special deck of cards - special edition for the Olympics.
The cards are very proper till now.
It may be that it looks more professional too.

Magically yours

Manipulix :bikes:
Message: Posted by: Xaero (Jul 29, 2002 02:41AM)
I use mine becuase it looks cool. Other than that it just crushes my box when there are no cards in it. Oh well, a small price to pay for a l33t looking deck of cards.
Message: Posted by: MagiclDave (Aug 23, 2002 12:21PM)
I never leave home without my guard but you all seem to keep the cards in the box and the box in the gaurd. I just dispose of the box and the card guard holds my cards perfectly well.

-Dave :bikes:
Message: Posted by: mysticz (Aug 23, 2002 01:19PM)
[quote]
On 2002-04-29 05:20, Magique Hands wrote:
In getting back to the 'Card Keepers' (the metal holders to keep cards from warping)...

Am I missing something here? I've used them to keep my cards warp free for a number of years now, but, before I do my show, I take the cards out of the device, and just take the cards with me.
[/quote]

I agree. A card guard merely calls out that there is something special about this deck of cards -- maybe it is a "magician's gimmick deck." And, even if your deck is not gimmicked, it may seem "fishy" to a spectator and the cards are immediately suspect. No "real" person keeps their playing cards in a metal sleeve.

Something to think about.

Joe Z.
Message: Posted by: Vincent (Aug 29, 2002 10:16AM)
I have to agree with Magique Hands, keep the cards in the press or guard when not using them. When you're working, take the cards out of it before showing the deck. I have a couple of the Joe Porper guards and I have found that they are better than the other ones. Denny carries them, just give him a call. Also in a more humid climate they help.

A very inexpensive way to do virtually the same thing is to alternate face up and face down cards. This method works. Obviously you have to remember to correct them before performing.

Ciao,
Vinny D. :die: :magicrabbit: :die:
Message: Posted by: KingStardog (Aug 30, 2002 11:07AM)
I have an old one my father gave me, maybe from the fifties. It has leather on the outside and inside and spring steel inside it. It's too small for a boxed deck. Without the two jokers it holds the deck perfect and tight, like a solid block. Being leather, it's nice looking and slips into a back pocket rather nicely. There is no manufacturer name on it. Does anyone know where to get more like this one?
Message: Posted by: Bobcape (Sep 2, 2002 12:30PM)
I use a card guard for "fixing" decks only. A tip given to me by Doc Eason is to put your deck in the card guard and then put it in the freezer for a couple of hours. You won't believe how the deck comes out. Great idea, thanks Doc! :idea:
Message: Posted by: mrmetropolis (Sep 4, 2002 02:31AM)
I use my guard all the time. I keep my cards in my back pocket all the time I am not sleeping and all the times I sit down the deck would be ruined by the end of the day. Now with the guard I am able to extend the life 5 days to a week. Not being a die hard T&R guy the deck seems to last longer. :lol:
Message: Posted by: CSStanton (Sep 18, 2002 06:25PM)
I watched a magician perform and he pulled out a deck in a deck-keeper. It looked very suave that he had one and I knew I needed one. I dont have one yet, but I plan on it in my next order. He pulled out 4 cards and presented Gemini Twins. I knew that the deck was regular because we were allowed to shuffle and all. Very professional. Very.
-Casey
Message: Posted by: clsaxn (Sep 19, 2002 12:18AM)
I use mine during the summer when I have to carry a deck of cards around in the back pocket of my jeans.

During the winter, I just toss a pack in my jacket pocket.

-James
Message: Posted by: CWMoss (Apr 6, 2004 12:54PM)
The Joe Porper Clip is the way to go.
Message: Posted by: Full Effect (Apr 9, 2004 01:28AM)
[quote]

I agree. A card guard merely calls out that there is something special about this deck of cards -- maybe it is a "magician's gimmick deck." And, even if your deck is not gimmicked, it may seem "fishy" to a spectator and the cards are immediately suspect. No "real" person keeps their playing cards in a metal sleeve.

Something to think about.

Joe Z.
[/quote]

Here's something to think about:
Magicians aren't "REAL" people. There's nothing fishy about a card guard/clip.

For example you take a few coins out of a coin purse. No "real" MAN carries a coin purse these days. Is there something fishy about the coins? Hand them out. Let them feel and touch them. Nothing fishy there.

Someone walks in a Pool Hall with their cue stick in a case. No one's going to think anything fishy about that. Cups and Balls... what REAL person has solid brass or copper cups like that in their household?

It's a case to protect MY playing cards because I am a Professional, and I like to keep my props in good condition.

Would you want a Magician to come up to you with a ratty torn up box with a deck of warped up playing cards?

I don't know why some many of you are so worried about spectators thinking something is "fishy" or gimmicked when it's not. Hand them the deck of cards to shuffle through; give them the coins to feel. Quit being so paranoid.
Message: Posted by: Flec (Apr 21, 2004 10:49AM)
Full Effect - here, here...agree 100%
Message: Posted by: p:m (Apr 28, 2004 06:06PM)
I always keep my cards in a card guard. Haven't tried out the Joe Porper clip yet, but only have heard good things. I usually keep my Black Tiger Decks in the card guard.
Message: Posted by: Kannible (Apr 29, 2004 06:29PM)
I love my card guard. Before I got it I would go through a deck maybe once a week, but now it's more like two to three weeks. Really great.

Also, I want to engrave all the suits on the side of it, and maybe a royal flush on the front, and ace of spades on the other side, for a cool, revelation. But it does cost a few bucks.
Message: Posted by: T. Joseph O'Malley (May 7, 2004 09:04PM)
If you're worried about the effect a card guard will have on a spectator, you could always remove the cards from the guard while in your pocket/bag/etc and leave it in there.

I need to use one, my body heat warps the cards something fierce, and the boxes get mangled otherwise.

Makes a good self-defense weapon too (ha!).
Message: Posted by: Brian Roberts (May 11, 2004 11:27AM)
Joe Porper's clip seems to work best. The even pressure keeps the cards very straight. Highly recommended! Try it with League Backs...it will even condition the cardbox to be more crisp and straight, in case the clip isn't around.

B.
Message: Posted by: rannie (May 18, 2004 11:40AM)
Joe's card clip made my bikes last 5 times longer and the clip looks great.

Rannie
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (May 18, 2004 01:16PM)
Kannible: Cement actual cards on the outside of the guard, cheaper than engraving.
Message: Posted by: Matt Ferro (May 18, 2004 04:20PM)
I used to use a card guard all the time. I kept it in my back pocket because otherwise my pockets are bulging. But after a while the metal started to wear through my jeans. Pretty soon I had the metal sticking out and holes in the back of my pants! I'm looking to do something to the metal corners or put something on it to make it better. Other than that, it keeps my cards straight and adds another week or two to a deck.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 18, 2004 04:48PM)
I work in restaurants and go through the whole deck each night, so I haven't had a use for one of these.
Message: Posted by: pepijn (May 19, 2004 01:06PM)
I take my cards with me everywhere I go and even though the card guards that I have (both from penguin) scratch the box a little they do seem to help the cards survive so that's pretty good!!!

and I do think it looks pretty cool....

Pepijn
Message: Posted by: Rob Johnston (May 19, 2004 01:14PM)
I thought I posted here, but I guess I did not.

I am an avid Baseball card collector, so I have a lot of plastic cases (both deck size and individual). I just use them for my decks and gaffs as well.
Message: Posted by: Scott Wells (Jun 2, 2004 01:14PM)
I have been using a metal card press for years (de rigueur for the humid Houston weather), but I just bought the Porper press. I am very pleased and I think it adds a touch of class to my act. Small touch, but the brushed onyx looks cool and very professional.

Yours,
Scott