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Topic: Organising your decks
Message: Posted by: Steve Martin (Jan 30, 2005 01:44PM)
I have a box of red, black, blue and green-backed Bicycle cards. I also have a box of OLD Bicycle cards and various gimmicked cards.

Keeping these resources in good order is often something of a nightmare. After a week or two of use, cards end up where they shouldn't be, and I sometimes struggle to quickly put my hands on a complete deck. I tidy up and sort out periodically, so it's not a huge problem. However, it did make me wonder if anyone else has this issue, and if anyone has developed a good robust system for storing and labelling cards so that your stocks of cards are well organised at all times.

If you have any thoughts on this, please post them here. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Roger Kelly (Jan 30, 2005 02:02PM)
Steve,

Following a recent disaster where I had the wrong deck in hand - largely due to your description above - I have now become more disciplined. You have to be if you have many props to organise.

I'm a bit of an anorak now and I keep a briefcase, the type with a document insert in the lid. The base is decked out in 'camera case' type foam with several compartments. Whilst they are unlabelled, I know where all the types of decks are and all the gaff cards are in marked envelopes in the lid. As as my wallets and packet tricks.

Naturally, all this is for storage and transportation. No spectator ever sees in there!! The contents are somewhere around my body when needed and I am only ever seen with one deck of cards in hand.

My close up mat lies neatly accross the base contents just in case any nosey people manage to get a look in.

Hope this helps. :)
Message: Posted by: Magicmike1949 (Jan 30, 2005 05:12PM)
Went to a baseball trading card store. Had all sorts of boxes for storing and organizing cards. I found some that worked for me and were very inexpensive.
Message: Posted by: Jaz (Jan 30, 2005 05:20PM)
I use a baseball card album with plastic sleeves for packets and an old cassette organizers with the guts ripped out for special decks. My decks are initialed on the boxes. Regular decks are lying around and in a box under my bed.

While I try to put everything back immediately after use, I too sometimes end up with piles of all kinds of props on my end table.
Message: Posted by: lynnef (Apr 12, 2005 12:26AM)
Thanks for this topic! I've been wondering if one can purchase eg Bicycle card boxes alone in bulk. Thanks for the idea about baseball cards, but are these Poker size?
Message: Posted by: STFC (Apr 12, 2005 12:47AM)
Speaking of having your cards in a mess, had a shocker a little while ago. while doing an effect to show their selection wasn't in the deck but in my wallet, I found that in fact their selection (duplicate) was in the deck and needless to say that didn't have the desired results.
Solution: no need to clean up, just get the to sign the card and if there is another in the deck you can also claim a vanishing signature effect.HaHa
ST
Message: Posted by: ziatro (Apr 12, 2005 01:18AM)
Recently I decided to organize all my decks and cards. I purchased 8 of these cabinets, and the width of the drawers perfectly fit a poker sized deck. Stick labels on the drawer fronts and it's the perfect storage medium. Available from B&Q for 4.98 each.
Message: Posted by: Roger Kelly (Apr 12, 2005 02:40AM)
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On 2005-04-12 02:18, ziatro wrote:
Recently I decided to organize all my decks and cards. I purchased 8 of these cabinets, and the width of the drawers perfectly fit a poker sized deck. Stick labels on the drawer fronts and it's the perfect storage medium. Available from B&Q for 4.98 each.
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Do you carry that around with you Ziatro? :)
Message: Posted by: ziatro (Apr 12, 2005 09:13AM)
Hi Roger, The answer to your question is no. They are kept on a shelf in my study, but I can now access any deck or packet trick instantly. I can then load my case in minutes with exactly what I require. I have filled nearly all 120 trays with decks, packet tricks, and smaller close up items. It used to take up to an hour to find everything I needed for a performance, but now it's a breeze.
Message: Posted by: MagicMarker (Apr 12, 2005 01:01PM)
I have a drawer full of decks. Special Decks have initials on the inside of one of the flaps, E.g. ID, MT, SD, etc. Unopened Decks are still in their cellophane so they are easy to spot.

I always have a full deck including jokers with no duplicates in a Card Guard.

I then have a second drawer where decks go when they die, either they are too worn out or there are some missing, if I ever need to practice ripping, folding etc I grab a few cards from that drawer.

Usually if I have a full deck that is getting near the end of it's life I give it to someone that I've done a trick for, preferably a kid, they appreciate it more. Then I'll show them something like the 21 card trick so they can go and annoy their parents and other Magicians.

-MM
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Apr 12, 2005 02:11PM)
I've found making a 3 letter mark on the bar code.

Such as "STR" for Stripper for "ACE" for my deck with aces at the top.

"CLR" for my Color Change, etc.
Message: Posted by: Roger Kelly (Apr 13, 2005 04:13PM)
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On 2005-04-12 10:13, ziatro wrote:
Hi Roger, The answer to your question is no. They are kept on a shelf in my study, but I can now access any deck or packet trick instantly. I can then load my case in minutes with exactly what I require. I have filled nearly all 120 trays with decks, packet tricks, and smaller close up items. It used to take up to an hour to find everything I needed for a performance, but now it's a breeze.
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I just wish I was that well organised! :)
Message: Posted by: Gallaleo (Apr 13, 2005 10:28PM)
Right now I have a shoe box or 2... or 3... I keep telling myself that I'm going to get them all oganized. but I keep packet trick cards in a plastic by-fold for each trick.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hallahan (Apr 13, 2005 10:31PM)
I also put very small letter codes on the bottom of each card box with a fine point marker. This is good for stacked decks as well as gaffed ones.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Apr 13, 2005 10:49PM)
MagicMarker and Iceman90 have systems to help them identify gaffed decks, but I've shy'd away from any conspicious markings that might tip a layman, even as unlikely as that is. I'm worried they'd see it and ask, "ID ? or, MP ? What's that mean ?".
Then I thought of a perfect cover - if you can get hold of a pricing gun that makes those little price stickers, make up a set of prices that you know will indict the gaff, but to the layman, it'll just look like a price sticker. Naturally, if the price is going to vary with different gaffed decks, it would be better to use different guns/stickers from different stores to reflect the variations in price.
Hard part is working out the logistics of the code ! I'm not there yet.. :hmm:
Message: Posted by: Suave Dan (Apr 13, 2005 11:21PM)
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On 2005-04-13 23:49, Mystician wrote:
MagicMarker and Iceman90 have systems to help them identify gaffed decks, but I've shy'd away from any conspicious markings that might tip a layman, even as unlikely as that is. I'm worried they'd see it and ask, "ID ? or, MP ? What's that mean ?".
Then I thought of a perfect cover - if you can get hold of a pricing gun that makes those little price stickers, make up a set of prices that you know will indict the gaff, but to the layman, it'll just look like a price sticker. Naturally, if the price is going to vary with different gaffed decks, it would be better to use different guns/stickers from different stores to reflect the variations in price.
Hard part is working out the logistics of the code ! I'm not there yet.. :hmm:

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I've never been questioned, because I never let the spec see the box fully. I just drop it on the table so the barcode faces me.

What if you were to price them in order of their use in your routine? .10,.20,.30 etc and then change the last "0" to keep it looking normal

i.e.

3.10 <--first deck
3.25<-- second deck
3.38
3.45
3.59
5.66
etc.
Message: Posted by: kenny kadabra (Apr 14, 2005 07:24AM)
I have a very good friend who likes an expensive cigar ! He tips me his cigar boxes when he's done with them, they are ornate, carved wood with hinges, a poker deck can stand up on it's side ( very secure) will hold around 12 decks ! Looks very expensive and OLD ! Kenny
Message: Posted by: tony4938 (Apr 14, 2005 07:45AM)
I use a cassette tape briefcase, they are very very cheap on ebay and are perfect for holding decks of cards.

Tony

here a picture when closed
Message: Posted by: tony4938 (Apr 14, 2005 07:48AM)
Here's one open.

sorry they are small but I'm not very good with computers!
Message: Posted by: Gary Kruse (Apr 14, 2005 11:38PM)
Ziatro,

Thanks for the tip on organizing lots of decks and accessories with the plastic drawer case. I think I'll bring a dozen decks to a local Walmart here in the U.S. and see what they have that will work.

After that, I'm heading to some kind of smoke shop and see if they'll sell a nice cigar box or two as Kenny suggests. I think I'd like to keep the masses of stuff I have in my closet in plastic containers and then one or two nice cigar boxes for show.

Gary
Message: Posted by: Philippe (Apr 15, 2005 09:57AM)
Hello Lynnef. Making up decks with spares, this we all do but I think it is very bad show to bring out a card case that well worn and tatty, in fact it is almost as bad as dirty nails. So, in answer to your question re boxes in bulk, I do buy new boxes in bulk, they come flat and just need the base sticking with Pritt stick or the like. They are rediculously cheap! They must be available at many dealers but I get mine from Magicbox in the UK.
Message: Posted by: Magic Sam (Apr 15, 2005 11:27AM)
I use several cabinets with drawers the width of card boxes for organization at home.
Similar to marking the bar code, I just mark the bottom of the box. If you're using Bikes, it says "bicycle poker 808", so using a blue/red sharpie, I change the last number. So this way, since I only have maybe a dozen stacked/gimmicked decks, it's easy to notice 801, 802, 80R, etc.