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Topic: Black Art
Message: Posted by: Cameron (Feb 10, 2005 12:23AM)
Yes, Yes, I know Don Drake... But I was wondering if there are any other resources or at the least Historical type documents about black art shows. I love the consept and I'd like to read more.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 10, 2005 02:13AM)
Well, there are a couple of early references. Hopkins [i]Magic,Stage Illusions and Scientific Diversions[/i] has a section on pp. 64 ff. that describes some of the basic techniques. However, he mistakenly credits the "Yogi of India" with its discovery. [i]Illustrated Magic[/i] has a more detailed history of it on pp 169 ff. that credits its discovery to Max Auzinger, a theatrical director from Berlin, who discovered it completely by accident. He later performed as Ben Ali Bey.

Gogia Pasha was one of the premiere performers of black art, and his son has taken over the show since his death.

Unfortunately, it has become fashionable to expose the method after the show in some of the troupes that are currently performing. I believe this reflects a desire of the troupe to have personal recognition for their individual contributions to the performance.
Message: Posted by: Cameron (Feb 10, 2005 04:49PM)
Ahh thank you Bill I'll look into that. I was wondering if somoene could possably point me in the direction of some websights or something devoted to black art shows Id like to see an actual preformance or something if I could. =)
Message: Posted by: habilo (Mar 7, 2005 01:50PM)
Watch Omar Pasha on the Lance Burton DVD.
Message: Posted by: Todd Robbins (Mar 15, 2005 06:32AM)
There is also the Black Light Theatre of Prague. They are starting up a US tour this Spring. I don't know where the tour will take them or when.
Message: Posted by: Rip (Mar 15, 2005 10:50AM)
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On 2005-02-10 03:13, Bill Palmer wrote:

Gogia Pasha was one of the premiere performers of black art, and his son has taken over the show since his death.
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Hi Bill,

Did Gogia Pasha do a BA show? The limited reading I have done on him does not mention this.

I have seen Omar Pasha's show which is fab. Now toured by Ernest and Michelle Ostrowsky who bought it lock, stock & barrel from Hilde Berscheid in 1974 after the death of her husband Willy (whose father created Omar Pasha over 100 years ago).

Any sources of info on Gogia Pasha would be appreciated.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 16, 2005 01:07AM)
Actually, I was somewhat confused about the relationship between Gogia Pasha and Omar Pasha. They were completely unrelated.

However, the Omar Pasha act, per se, according to their own web site, was not created until 1960. Willi Berscheid did a black art act in white evening attire for a while. The Omar Pasha act was really the best of the black art acts.

There is another act touring right now called "Luma," produced by Michael Marlin. Mike is a very talented juggler. He dismisses the value of the mystery of the black art aspect of the show and exposes it at the end when the cast comes out and meets the people in the foyer of the theatre as the show lets out. I don't think this adds to the performance one bit. It is simply a way of stroking the jugglers' egos.
Message: Posted by: Joe Russell (Oct 14, 2005 07:05PM)
Just buy some triple black velvet and a sewing machine go to town. Black art is so great because the possibilities are endless.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Oct 14, 2005 07:58PM)
Bill, are there patents or a more formal name for this stuff? I recall a term ...something about "contrast reduction" in a book somewhere.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Oct 15, 2005 12:05PM)
You know around here (Hollywood) we see the "black art" principle almost daily as the LIMO's drive around with bright lights on the strips between the vehicle's windows.
Message: Posted by: Irish_matt (Nov 5, 2005 04:17PM)
Ger Cooper in Holland has a black art act that has appeared on the French caberet tv show. He also performed it at the last FISM in 2003. I'd personally love to see more of his work.

Here's a link to a site for him:
http://www.picobello.to/ger_cooper_casinoverhuur_magic_goochelaar.htm

I think Gary Darwin's book, Inexpensive Illusions deals with a lot of black art effects.

Also, check out this link.. it's a pretty creative cutting in half illusion..
http://www.wizardrecordings.com/bestmovie/bestmovie.mov

best of luck
Matt
Message: Posted by: T-RAY (Nov 6, 2005 01:13AM)
Cool video! this is classic stuff.....
Message: Posted by: gerard1973 (Jan 27, 2006 10:01PM)
Cameron:

Since you are familiar with Don Drake's Black Art Breakthroughs another good Black Art book to take a look at would be the one that Irish_matt also suggested, Darwin's Inexpensive Illusions by Lance Burton.
Message: Posted by: Euangelion (Jan 31, 2006 06:14PM)
There is a troupe of mentally and developmentally challenged folks who perform a black light black art act. I think they were from Toronto but I may be confusing that with another act.

They were called the ------ People.

They were featured on an episode of Seventh Heaven.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 8, 2006 04:13AM)
Don Drake has recently applied for a patent of some of his original black art work.
Message: Posted by: Autumn Morning Star (Jul 10, 2006 10:04AM)
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On 2005-03-16 02:07, Bill Palmer wrote:

There is another act touring right now called "Luma," produced by Michael Marlin. Mike is a very talented juggler. He dismisses the value of the mystery of the black art aspect of the show and exposes it at the end when the cast comes out and meets the people in the foyer of the theatre as the show lets out. I don't think this adds to the performance one bit. It is simply a way of stroking the jugglers' egos.
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So that is what happened to Michael Marlin. I always wondered. He bought up some land in Hawaii, set up some sort of performer's complex and I never heard from him since. I googled him a few years ago, but found little. He is a fantastically funny and talented juggler. It is a real shame to hear that he is exposing the methodology of his black art after the show. His level of talent stands on its own merit without stooping to exposure.
Message: Posted by: landmark (Jul 10, 2006 12:55PM)
Jim Steinmeyer's Chung Ling Soo bio has some interesting info on the history of Black Art. I was especially intrigued by the "dazzler" concept.

Jack Shalom
Message: Posted by: Autumn Morning Star (Jul 11, 2006 03:51PM)
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On 2006-07-10 13:55, landmark wrote:
Jim Steinmeyer's Chung Ling Soo bio has some interesting info on the history of Black Art. I was especially intrigued by the "dazzler" concept.

Jack Shalom
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I am not familiar with the dazzler concept and I do not have Jim's book. Can you pm me with the details?


Posted: Jul 12, 2006 9:46am
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Thank you Silverking, for the PM information re: dazzler effect. Great details!
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Oct 24, 2006 09:09AM)
Lucy and I are building a new rehearsal studio at the Clanton ranch. The contractor has real problems with why so much flat black paint is used on stage.

It must be a secret!

We hope other magicians shoot their DVDs there. It should be completely finished in November. Come take a look.

Bob and Lucy Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: jhard (Jul 6, 2012 04:15PM)
Is Don Drake still alive, and if not, is anyone handling his products? I have emailed several times but get no answers. I am really interested in his books and also wanted a full-stage set up.
Message: Posted by: chrispuppets (Nov 18, 2017 04:37PM)
Yes Gogia Pasha did a Black Art Act, I saw him perform in the UK in the late 1940s at the Bradford Alhambra - a Variety (vaudeville)theatre. The very same act was recreated for a television series called The Good Old Days in the 60s - these were made in the Leeds City Varieties theatre and are currently being repeated. If you want to see an authentic black art act with only black velvet and proscenium lights (blinders), long before UV lighting, back projection or CGI, then here is the link.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b09g38n7/the-good-old-days-02071980
The link will only be live for a limited period. It is still remarkably effective.
Message: Posted by: john wills (Nov 19, 2017 04:13AM)
Does not work outside UK.
Message: Posted by: chrispuppets (Nov 19, 2017 05:25AM)
Well there are ways around that but you'll need the help of an internet expert. I know that it is possible for us in UK to download USA only material by using a virtual IP which conceals where we are located. I'm sure you can do something similar from your end. If you haven't a friend who can help try posting a request on Google. Alternatively there are some browsers which offer use of a virtual IP - OPera does, I think, or try Epic Privacy Browser. It's worth a bit of effort if you've never seen Black Art.
Message: Posted by: chrispuppets (Nov 19, 2017 05:35AM)
I'm told this may help. It's a paid for service but has a 14 day free trial I think so worth a try.
https://www.smartdnsproxy.com/?afid=916caa80b1bf
Message: Posted by: Dick Oslund (Nov 19, 2017 05:50AM)
In the '40s, U.F. "Gen" Grant sold a black art "prop". It was "DeGraham's Utility Outfit", (IIRC). It was a "parlor" prop. --A table, with a black screen. I only met Don Drake once, when he lectured at Abbott's in Colon. Don had really done his "homework"!

I think that it was '78, and, Jay Marshall had "booked himself" at the SAM convention in Boston, with a black art act. He had bought (I think it was Vic Torsberg's black art props). We had to do a major "re-fit", as the black "suits" were about worn out. Jay bought a bolt of black cloth. Several of us helped. We spread the cloth on the floor in the "auditorium". Then we lay down on the cloth, and Jay "scissored" around us!. We used a desk stapler to fasten the black material together, and, the act looked great! I don't think that Jay ever presented it again.

In the early '50s, I saw "Dolinoff and the Raya Sisters"at the AUTO SHOW in Chicago, It was a "dancing act". Dolinoff was in "black", and the girls danced. The girls did "impossible" acrobatics (with Dolinoff "helping"!)

When I was a teenager, I bought Percy Abbott's Square Circle. It was advertised as "New Livestock Vanish". The black art illusion was fine, but the prop was much better used as a production.
Message: Posted by: Cauan (Nov 27, 2017 05:40PM)
I like to use tarrot gimmick cards
In tarrot we have a lot of dark cards and with gimmicks omg is so easy to scary people
But as a dark art I like to use I.T. and some good ghost stories (p.s. jokes will be a must)
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Nov 30, 2017 09:14PM)
My wife took me to see Richardi Jr. some time between 78 & 80. I remember someone doing a acrobat automation and a black art act. Was that Omar Pasha?
Message: Posted by: chrispuppets (Dec 1, 2017 08:38AM)
It could well have been Ed, either the father or the son. It was the father I saw as a boy, and the father I also worked with as a young professsional, but the son eventually took over and did the identical act. As I recall he opened by producing a very large white cloth from a hand held box. Then from the silk he produced a folding chair. He draped the cloth over the chair, whipped it away to reveal a hunky, beturbanned slave sat on the chair. He proceeded to behead the slave with a scimitar, putting the the severed head in the slaves lap. He then replaceed the head and, unharmed, the slave walked off.
Omah then unrolled a banner, a picture of an eastern beauty, the picture changing to become a live girl who stepped out of the banner. The cloth was thrown over girl who promptly vanished. Finally, centre stage, Omah Pasha briefly covered himself with the cloth, when with a swirl it snaked into the air and fell to the floor. The stage was empty.
And all this performed with the utmost precision, and the utmost simplicity of method. Brillliant.
If you did see either father or son, that description will probably help you to decide..
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 1, 2017 04:36PM)
That sounds familiar, but it was over 30 years ago! There was a final vanish, but I remember it being a hoop. He picked the hoop up and dropped it over his head where it dropped to the floor. As he picked it up and threw it over his head, he visibly vanished!
Message: Posted by: john wills (Dec 2, 2017 04:39AM)
Cauan: Tarot cards and I.T. has nothing to do with black art. Google a little bit to see what black art is really about.

Chispuppets and ed rhodes.
You can find the answers to your questions and witness the act on YouTube:
Richard jr - witness the impossible 1985 - - (time) 35.30
Message: Posted by: chrispuppets (Dec 2, 2017 07:34AM)
Ed, I've just watched the Richardi Jr youtube link posted by John (for which many thanks). That is not Omah Pasha but Richardi Jnr doing Black Art. He would appear to have blatantly copied Omah Pasha's act, almost move for move, but the result is dissapointing, much slower paced, laboured, and technically not as well lit. The impression is of peering into the gloom which wasn't the case in the Pasha act.
The hoop you correctly recall Ed was used in fact for one of the previous vanishes. Gogia Pasha's own final vanish, and effectively copied by Richardi, used just the swirling cloth. Lovely.
Anyone really interested in GP act drop me an email and I'll post a private copy.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 2, 2017 01:30PM)
Thanks. Time is a terrible, but effective, editor.