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Topic: Front Row Sankey
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Feb 15, 2005 11:48AM)
I recently attended the Magi-Fest and purchased Jay's new dvd which is not out on the market yet. It's called Front Row Sankey and we finally get to see Jay perform in front of a live audience. The dvd contains about 16-18 new effects. I have a lot of Sankey material including Sankeytized I and II, Sankey 99, and the Secret Files. I have to say that I enjoyed this dvd very much and I think you will too. The material included is often very strong and is classic Sankey meaning there is nothing knuckle-busting about any of the routines. The effects use cards, coins, bills, and matches.

I'm sure Penguin will be selling the dvd soon so you'll be able to see a full list of contents. Of note, I've been having a great time with Jay's routine Fan Mail. Basically, you have a spectator sign a slip of paper. You show that you have already done the same and you fold your autograph and cleanly place it in your pocket. (it really is in your pocket). You then very fairly change teh spectator's autograph into your autograph and imemediately pull the spectator's autograph from your pocket. Everything can be examined. This is a new routine for an old method but what a new routine it is. I've done it probably 35 times since I learned it and it kills.

There is also a new handling for Jay's paperclipped routine which gets a great reaction on the dvd.

I think the dvd is worth your consideration. I have gotten my money's worth from Fan Mail alone. Plus, unlike other Sankey tapes, you get to see Jay perform the routines before he explains them. To me, this is important.

Just thought I would give you a preview.

Message: Posted by: niva (Feb 15, 2005 03:09PM)
Thanks a lot for the review. Could you perhaps list the contents? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: SHOC (Feb 22, 2005 12:31AM)
Was the DVD recorded live before a lay audience or magicians?
Message: Posted by: timofy (Feb 22, 2005 02:55AM)
On 2005-02-22 01:31, SHOC wrote:
Was the DVD recorded live before a lay audience or magicians?

It was for a lay audience at various bars etc.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Feb 22, 2005 10:21AM)
Basically, it's just Jay table hopping for one or two people at a time. If you are familiar with Sankey material, you probably won't be fooled by anything on the dvd, but as Jay emphasizes, these are tricks for real world lay people. All are highly visual and surprising. I recommend it.
Message: Posted by: Clarioneer (Feb 22, 2005 12:57PM)
But are they NEW routines he hasn't included on other DVD's and pleeeeease tell me it DOESN'T include coins across.......
Message: Posted by: chichi711 (Feb 22, 2005 04:32PM)
Whats wrong with coins accross? Sure it is on like 5 DVD's, but it kills!!!
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Feb 22, 2005 04:35PM)
There are some new handlings of some old Sankey material like Paperclipped, and a couple of routines that utilize his mainstay moves like the Erdnase color change and the Tenkai Pinch but I don't recall seeing any tricks that have been included on other tapes. And yes, there is a trick that is similar to a coins across routine but this is included as a bonus trick rather than one of the effects performed for real people.

Again, you will probably not be fooled by anything but you will get some usable real world tricks. And I would be willing to bet that 75% of the people that buy the dvd will do Fan Mail.
Message: Posted by: Tabasco (Feb 23, 2005 01:42AM)
Is the date known we it will be released?
Message: Posted by: niva (Feb 23, 2005 02:06AM)
I believe in his email he said it will be some time in March.
Message: Posted by: Tabasco (Feb 23, 2005 09:40AM)
Can't wait, sounds promissing
Message: Posted by: realorcy (Mar 9, 2005 06:45AM)
I love watching magicians performe for real layman in real world,not those trained audience.
Message: Posted by: GoranS (Mar 9, 2005 07:21AM)
On 2005-02-15 16:09, niva wrote:
Thanks a lot for the review. Could you perhaps list the contents? Thanks.

Fan Mail: The spectator's and the magician's autographs visually change places!
Full Lotus: An inexplicable exchange of a folded joker and a signed card!
Shake & Bake: The coin production that proves, "Hearing is believing!"
Slow Motion Coins: A "coins across" effect as deliberate as it is deadly!
Not This Card!: Jay's favorite handling of Frank Everhardt's "Chicago Opener!"
Shape of Things to Come: A heartstopping, double-climax mentalist's dream!
Real Magic: Freshly written words melt through a dollar bill!
Hypnotarized: A hypnotized spectator starts seeing some truly weird sh*t!
Litmus Test: A blank card first gains, then loses an identity!
Close Contact: Two spectators, one card, and an astonishing occurance!
Deviant Behavior: Four jokers escape from the pack in a most elegant fashion!
Out of Sight: A deck production combined with a bizarre mental routine!
Vital Signs: Paper matches travel in and out of the spectator's fist!
The Phoenix Effect: Fire + mentalism + a signed card = a reputation maker!
Inseparable: The last word on linking rubber band routines!
One of One: A drawing and a playing card undergo a startling transformation!
Message: Posted by: Jaymz023 (Mar 9, 2005 10:13AM)
I like Sankey and have my eye on this. I have many of his videos as well and love the material he creates.
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Mar 9, 2005 02:48PM)
This is my third Sankey tape and I like it very much. As has been said before, a lot of it uses Jay's "standby" sleights, and there are some variations on some of his other marketed material, but this is strong stuff. I'm planning to start testing out several of the effects from this one. It's also nice to see the effects performed for live audiences. Nothing too complicated, just some strong magic. Not magician-foolers, but it's clear from the reactions on the DVD that lay audiences really like these effects.

Message: Posted by: eryanic (Mar 10, 2005 01:38AM)
Though I don't quite like Jay Sankey's style and some (not all) of his material, the demo of this DVD looks really good I must say...
I guess performing to real lay audiences really make a difference in these DVDs??
Message: Posted by: tbaronio (Mar 10, 2005 12:39PM)
I have all of Jay's tapes and DVD's and this, by far, is one of his best!
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Mar 10, 2005 03:45PM)
Rather than clutter up with new threads, I'll add to this one. My first "real" review of any product.

Front Row Sankey – Jay Sankey

I’m not giving any X/10 ratings, simply because I feel they’re too subjective. I will give a breakdown of each effect, and the overall quality of the video/audio. Here we go.

Audio/Video Quality – Not quite as nice during the performance as it is during the explanations, but he is out in restaurants, malls, etc. The performances were shot with a fisheye lens, in order to allow us to see more of the “whole” picture, and allow us to feel more like we’re right there in the action. Jay explains this. For the audio, it’s certainly not much of a distraction, but the performances are slightly distorted, just the occasional bit of static, etc, which I also attribute to the “guerilla” nature of shooting the performances. Nothing to get upset over.
The audio and video during the explanation parts are just fine. I know people were unhappy on Jay’s Revolutionary Card Magic DVD during the parts where he was in the hotel hallway. There’s nothing that bad on this disc. Everything is seen and heard quite clearly for the explanations.
Most of the effects are performed for real audiences in restaurants, malls, etc. This is one of the strongest points of the DVD. You’re still getting Jay’s sense of humor, but you get to see how he applies it to his real working experience. A few of the effects are interspersed as “Bonus Effects” and are fully performed and explained in the studio, no live audience. They’re still strong effects, and are marked as “(B.E.)” next to the effect’s title. Now for the effects…

Fan Mail – A variation on the classic bill switch, where a paper signed by the spectator magically changes places with a paper signed by the performer. I like this one a lot, it’s visually striking, involves the spectator on a personal level, and the motivation makes more sense to me than turning a bill inside out. Thumbs up, would make a good opener.

Full Lotus – A new handling on Jay’s Paperclipped idea where a spectator’s signed card changes places with a folded, clipped Joker. This is my favorite version of the Paperclipped idea, and I’m looking forward to adding it to my repertoire.

Shake and Bake (B.E.) – A borrowed coin doubles, then triples. A pretty clean production of 3 coins. This one could work as a stand alone effect, or as an intro to a coins across or 3-fly routine. Nice opener.

Slow Motion Coins – Three coins are placed into the hand, and then travel back into your pocket, while the spectator holds onto your wrist. This could be used right after Shake and Bake, or by itself. The slowness in performing this routine is what makes it powerful, and seemingly impossible.

Not This Card – A new handling on the classic Chicago Opener effect with some good changes and suprises.

Shape of Things to Come – The spectator takes a pack of ESP cards and mixes them well. He/She does this under the table, then selects two cards. The performer devines both. The first, the spectator knows, this one is an experiment in “telepathy”. The next one isn’t know by the spec or performer, but it is known anyway. An experiment in “clairvoyance”. This one will BLOW AWAY lay audiences. I don’t do very much mentalism, but I like this one a lot. Could work well as a closer.

Real Magic (B.E.) – Another variation on the classic bill switch, where writing magically “melts” through a borrowed bill. This one isn’t bad, but I much prefer Fan Mail over it, another good opener.

Hypnotarized – A card magically changes into the spectator’s card under the guise of hypnosis. Not too bad, not outstanding. Always handy to have another color-change effect.

Litmus Test (B.E.) – A double-blank card gains a face, then a back, then loses them again. Not a bad effect, but probably my least favorite on the disc, mostly because I find the “Topper” move a bit fishy. I may have liked it more if I had seen an audience reaction on this one.

Close Contact – Best if performed for a couple. The man mixes the deck and selects a card, all under the table. He peeks his card, then shuffles it back into the deck, still under the table. The deck is brought out. The cards are spread and the woman chooses any card. The selected card is left on the table, the rest of the deck put away. The man reveals his card, and the card on the table is turned over, revealing it’s the same card! This one is great for couples, best suited for them actually. There is no forcing, and it’s easy to do. You’ll kill with this one. Would make a great closer.

Deviant Behavior – A new version of the standard “place 4 cards into the deck and they magically come back to the top”. In this one, four Jokers are placed through the deck, only for one of them to come back to the top of the deck, two to your pockets, and the final to your fly. The deck is clean afterward, no extra Jokers. A good effect, would be fine as a “middle” to your routine. As Jay says, this is a “watch me” effect. Maybe a little risqué for some with the fly part, but that’s easily changed to another pocket, etc.

Out of Sight (B.E.) – A card is selected from an invisible deck, marked with an X and replaced in the box. The cards then magically appear in the box, and one card is marked with an X, which turns out to be the though of card.. For those who like I.D. routines without the gimmicked I.D. No force.

Vital Signs – A new match and a burned match trade places. Done in the spectator’s hands. Similar to a dime and penny in the hands switch. Minimal sleights, strong magic. I like this one, especially in a restaurant with it’s own matches. Good way to promote the venue.

The Phoenix Effect – Others have stated that this one could be sold on its own, and I agree. It’s pretty strong magic. A spectator selects a card. He/She then initials the back of a different card. The initial is wiped off the card. The paper with the smeared ink is then set ablaze over the deck, and the initial re-materializes on the first selected card, in the middle of the deck. This written description really does not do the effect justice. It’s really strong magic, and this is going into the show as soon as possible.

Inseparable (B.E.) – A fairly typical Crazy Man’s Handcuffs routine, where the bands link at the end. Spec. can keep the linked bands. In this one, the bands have both been broken and tied back together before the effect. This makes the final link a bit more feasible, but for me lessens the magic in the effect. I feel that if a spec. sees the broken bands “melt” through each other, they may just not be as wowed as they would with whole, new bands. Good for someone who’s never done a CMH and wants to learn one, but I’d recommend Harlan’s material over this one.

One of One – The spectator selects a card. The magician draws a picture of a card on the back of a Joker, which turns out to be an incorrect prediction. The drawing then magically changes into a correct prediction, and the Joker itself turns into the selected card. Strong magic, several magical moments. Nothing complicated, could make a nice giveaway.

Overall, the magic here is strong and usable. No magician foolers, but hard-hitting stuff for laypeople. No tough sleight of hand, and most of it requires little setup, if any. This is my third Sankey DVD, and by far my favorite. Definitely recommended, particularly for strolling or table-hopping magicians.
Message: Posted by: Logan (Mar 10, 2005 09:08PM)

after reading your very nicely written review, I may give this a 2nd look.

I am not a huge Sankey fan, but I admit he has good material once in a while.

Take care guys,

Message: Posted by: paulduggan (Mar 11, 2005 08:18AM)
Nice review, but 'no forcing' in Close Contact??? That statement is *not* accurate. I do like the effect though and I agree with pretty much everything else you've written.
Fan Mail is definitely one of the stars as are the Phoenix Effect, Vital Signs and One of One.
I thought Hypnotarized was weak (essecntially a thin dressing for a colour change), which isn't to say that it would play badly for lay people; I think they might like it. My problem is that something this simplistic doesn't deserve space on a DVD.
The other effect I really don't like is Real Magic. As you pointed out, it's simlar to Fan Mail but weaker. Given that Fan Mail is on this DVD I'm not sure why Real Magic is here at all especially since Sankey indicates that *he* think's it's weaker.
Overall though I really like this CD and it's great to see Sankey performing close-up for real people.
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Mar 11, 2005 07:22PM)
Agreed about the forcing... I wasn't quite thinking clearly I suppose. I'll modify my statement to "spectator has a free choice of any of the cards in front of him/her." Or is that saying too much? that's for pointing that out to me.

Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Mar 13, 2005 09:47AM)
Excellent review Mercury52. Thanks for your help.
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Mar 14, 2005 08:22AM)
Nice review indeed. Love Paperclipped and am always looking for variations on it. Think I'll pick this one up soon.
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Mar 14, 2005 10:00AM)
No problem, for as often as Sankey comes out with a new DVD or trick, this one really has some good stuff. And for my last post, the sentence is supposed to say "Thanks for pointing that out to me" not "that's for..."

Message: Posted by: HiraseMagic (Mar 14, 2005 10:12AM)
Thanks, Mercury52,

I will give it a try, especially it's a DVD performing in real setting!

Thanks for your review!

Message: Posted by: Jean-Luc.R. (Mar 14, 2005 10:57AM)
I got the DVD . Fan Mail –( A variation on the classic bill ) is great . I will do this one.

Shape of Things to Come –I like this one very much ! Variation on a kind of Mind's Eye Deck from Max Maven ...but which you can not miss .No problems with the cards .
Message: Posted by: Badger (Mar 14, 2005 11:25AM)
Sankey must need money for his rent again,... his coins across is the best one out there sseeing it on 5 DVDs gives you a chance 2 see 5 ways in performance. However no only three DVDs are ever needed by him and the are the very best of jay sankey 1,2,3 by llpub.......
Message: Posted by: qkeli (Mar 16, 2005 11:59AM)
Should I understand that the coins across routine on this new dvd is "mr clean coins across" ?
Message: Posted by: qkeli (Mar 16, 2005 12:04PM)
Should I understand that the coins across routine on this new dvd is "mr clean coins across" ?
Message: Posted by: danielrhall (Mar 16, 2005 12:55PM)
On 2005-03-16 13:04, qkeli wrote:
Should I understand that the coins across routine on this new dvd is "mr clean coins across" ?
[/quote]I don't think so. It's mentioned in the review above that, in this routine, coins end up in the pocket.
Message: Posted by: ixnay66 (Mar 16, 2005 02:56PM)
Maybe Badger should get a little more info before bashing Jay and this DVD? The coin routine sounds nothing like his coins across. As for only needing 3 DVDs, I don't buy that either. Fan Mail sounds like a great idea and definitely worth checking out. I think I'll wait until I see something before telling everyone it's not any good.
Message: Posted by: daaaave (Mar 16, 2005 08:17PM)

Jay's Slow Motion Coins routine on this dvd is completely different from his Mr Clean Coins Across and his No Jacket Required routines. With this new routine the coins are openly placed one at a time into your closed left fist. Even though the spectator holds tightly onto your wrist, the coins disappear and you remove them all from your pocket with your empty right hand.

Hope this clears it up.

Message: Posted by: ixnay66 (Mar 18, 2005 09:58PM)
This DVD has some REALLY good material on it.
Fan Mail, Full Lotus & The Phoenix Effect are great. He also has a nice a nice wrinkle on Crazy Mans Handcuffs with a great climax.
Message: Posted by: Joe Mauro (Mar 22, 2005 03:33PM)
My local shop doesn't carry this DVD. They say Penguin magic are the only authorized dealers for Sankey material.
Message: Posted by: paulduggan (Mar 23, 2005 03:01AM)
Er, yes. They're right.
Message: Posted by: daaaave (Mar 28, 2005 11:22PM)
You can find a lot of Sankey's dvds on ebay both new and second hand ones. You can usually get them pretty cheap as well.
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Mar 29, 2005 05:15PM)
EBay has cheap ones, but it's best to go with Penguin. Then you're guarenteed customer service and can return it if the disc doesn't work etc...
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 30, 2005 12:50PM)
Anyoen have a problem with there DVD not playing the last 7 effects?
Message: Posted by: shazzy (Mar 30, 2005 02:13PM)
Mine arrived today will post my thoughts in 2-3 days time.
Message: Posted by: GoranS (Mar 30, 2005 02:58PM)
On 2005-03-14 11:12, HiraseMagic wrote:

I will give it a try, especially it's a DVD performing in real setting!


several "bonus"-routines are performed in a studio...
Message: Posted by: shazzy (Apr 2, 2005 02:13AM)
Its a while since Jay Sankey has a dvd out that I really liked, this one has some real killers and are not repeats as he usually been doing in his many previous dvds.

Highly Reccomend it to anyone.
Message: Posted by: T.House (Apr 2, 2005 11:14AM)
Has anyone purchased the special paper (envelopes) for Fan Mail, or do you just use regular paper? If you have tried the special paper, could you comment on the difference between that and regular paper.

Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Apr 2, 2005 04:12PM)
Someone was kind enough to give me a couple envelopes to try out. I haven't cut them up and used them in the routine yet, but will post my results when I do. The envelopes themselves feel nice, but they're so darn expensive!

Message: Posted by: toberman (Apr 3, 2005 01:28AM)
On 2005-04-02 17:12, Mercury52 wrote:
Someone was kind enough to give me a couple envelopes to try out. I haven't cut them up and used them in the routine yet, but will post my results when I do. The envelopes themselves feel nice, but they're so darn expensive!


Go to the Post Office and get some Priority Mail Tyvek envelopes. they are free.
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Apr 3, 2005 03:10PM)
Thanks for the heads up! They're $18-20 a box at office depot.

Message: Posted by: paulduggan (Apr 4, 2005 02:35AM)
I've been using Tyvek, as recommended by Jay. It feels a more like the stock that bank notes are printed on (which I think is based on cotton) rather than paper. It's got a nice slick feel to it. And you can practice with two slips all day long and they won't get ripped, roughed up, ragged or damp from being in your TT like paper would.
Thanks toberman for the PO tip. I'll have to see if they do that in the UK. I went to Staples and had to put them on special order. They charged me £15 for ten envelopes!
Message: Posted by: Adam J (Apr 4, 2005 08:26AM)
I just recieved the DVD and must say that it really is great! I'm kind of dissaponted with the whole Tyvex envelope thing, but I'll be sure to goto my post office and get some for free! Thanks for the tip :P

Message: Posted by: GoranS (Apr 4, 2005 09:17AM)
I really like the switch in the "chicago opener"...
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 5, 2005 08:35AM)
I just got this dvd as a gift and I must say, I think it's pretty fantastic. His handlings are what make these effects so great. Very streamlined. By the way, no one has mentioned One of One. I think it's a killer effect. Okay, maybe not for magicians, but for lay people... I think I'm going to start doing this one very soon.
Message: Posted by: paulduggan (Apr 5, 2005 09:33AM)
I agree completely about One of One. I think that effect and Fan Mail are the best on the disc.
Message: Posted by: emyers99 (Apr 5, 2005 11:40AM)
I got a box of big tyvek mailing envelopes from Staples for around $10. You can cut approximately 12 slips per envelope and there are tons of envelopes in teh box. So spend $10 at Staples and you should have a lifetime of Fan Mail slips (The slips with your name rarely need replacing. I've been using the same one for over 75 performances and it's still fine).
Message: Posted by: Tiki (Apr 5, 2005 02:06PM)
It is actually nice to see Sankey getting some credit and praise on the Café. It seems that so many of the posts about him and his releases are negative. Front Row Sankey is great. My only suggestion would be to improve the sound quality should he try to produce a "live" performance dvd again.


Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 5, 2005 04:42PM)
How are you guys cutting the Tyveck? Scissors? Knife? I cut about 15 of them using a template I cut from some dry wall and a utility knife. Kind of a pain in the neck. Tried using a paper slicer but the Tyveck is a little slippery.

Also, how big are you making them? Size of a bill? 6" by 2 1/2"?

Just curious to see what other people are doing.
Message: Posted by: paulduggan (Apr 6, 2005 04:06AM)
I cut mine using a metal ruler and a scalpel-type hobby knife. You need something very sharp and a straight edge that the blade won't dig into. The template's a good idea but I think drywall would be very difficult to cut against.
I cut the to the size of a US dollar bill.
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 7, 2005 09:13AM)
It is difficult to cut against. But I was just improvising with what I had. I think I shoud invest in a metal ruler.
Message: Posted by: ollason (May 28, 2005 07:20AM)
If your looking for Tyvek for Fan Mail in UK I've found packs of 25 C5 size Tyvek envelopes at Viking Direct for £3.51 (unfortunately £3.50 delivery on top, but they did arrive next day).
I guess you'd get at least 4 bill sized pieces out of each envelope. They do other sizes too.
Link: http://www.viking-direct.co.uk/(e2pbmfzor3ihyl55lghuwnjk)/catalogSku.aspx?id=R1350&PR=V26&brmd=consumer
Message: Posted by: paulduggan (May 31, 2005 04:41AM)
Great tip. Thank you.
Message: Posted by: mischiefManaged (Jan 30, 2006 06:40PM)
I was walking to the break room today when I saw some FedEx envelopes. They were made of Tyvek of all things. I guess you can get Tyvek free from the post office and also from FedEx. I just paid like $20 for 50 envelopes at Office Depot.
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (Jan 31, 2006 02:39AM)
I am afer the coin routine in this video. Here is the description.

Slow Motion Coins: A "coins across" effect as deliberate as it is deadly!

Does this use the Goshman/Tenkai pinch? because I don't do the move. Is this effect powerful?
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Jan 31, 2006 08:31PM)
It does not use Tenkai. It's a terrific effect. Not difficult to do. He has another, more streamlined version on his Anytime Anywhere dvd. Not sure it's better but it's also very good.
Message: Posted by: mfreno (Mar 30, 2006 10:25PM)
I get so much satisfaction watching peoples faces while performing "Full Lotus" and "The Phoenix Effect". Buying this DVD has been the best $30 I've ever spent. I also use "Fan Mail" quite a bit and customize it toward the group of people I will be performing it for. I'll always carry Tyvek with me from now on!