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Message: Posted by: mysticalmike (Mar 7, 2005 11:59PM)
Anyone seen this or have use this.i just wondering if what you think about it.If you are wondering what it is here a description.
Audience member or assistant lays on a bed, supported by two uprights. The uprights are removed and so is the bed, leaving the lady suspended in mid-air. Hoops are passed over her to show there is no connection to any secret support. Yes, it's the super-X principle, but as improved by Jack Gwynne and perfected by Jim Sommers...makes it super-practical, super-portable and super-deceptive!

Perform surrounded. Walk away at any time.
One man operation
Set up in 1 minute. Strike in less. No nuts or bolts.
Weighs less than 55 lbs. Easily supports 200 lbs.
Only 5 pieces to fold on it's own roller platform
Message: Posted by: mysticalmike (Mar 8, 2005 06:34AM)
I am sorry I forgot to tell you who makes it. I found it on http://www.klamm-magic.com/ made bye jim sommers.
Message: Posted by: magicmanrob (Mar 9, 2005 10:55PM)
Mike I have never been a real fan of the Super x method, check out the posts for the 3 in 1 by new owner Den
Message: Posted by: brandonford1982 (Mar 10, 2005 09:27AM)
I bought and returned it. Its a "pipe" dream Trust me you'll get what you pay for.
Message: Posted by: cardone (Mar 10, 2005 10:24PM)
I have one and think it is terrible ... It will only hold about 90 lbs without wobbling !!!
Message: Posted by: mysticalmike (Mar 10, 2005 10:30PM)
Thank you I just decide not to get nothing from him. I have a guy build some illsuion for me. so thank all for your help
Message: Posted by: olivertwist (Mar 20, 2005 08:42PM)
I just picked up a used one from a Café member in NY and would like to add my comments to the discussion.
I weigh about 160 and I can lie on this without wobbling. If I move around it will wobble, but I plan to use it with children who are lighter. It's not suitable for a professional stage act, but it's light weight and ability to pack flat will make it easy to bring to shows. I also have the Chair Suspension and the Flying Carpet. I haven't been using the Flying Carpet because it won't fit in my car ( a Geo Metro) but I had no trouble getting the Walk Away Suspension in.

If my opinion changes after some shows I'll let you know.

Message: Posted by: MikeDes (Mar 21, 2005 07:55AM)
I have been using one for about five years. You can see it in my avatar.

The best thing about it is that it all breaks down for easy transportation. For $400 it is quite good. I use it to float my daughter so there is only a little wobble as she gets on and off. I have found a few ways to compensate for this.

If you are a touring pro, this is not for you. If you are a weekend warrior trying to add an illusion to your stage show this is great. Add a Blaney Great White Hoop, a fog machine and it can be a great illusion.

If you are expecting a Blaney Suspension for $400, you will be disppointed.

Message: Posted by: cardone (Mar 21, 2005 05:12PM)
The more I look at my walk -away the more it upsets me ...The person who designed it could have put the gimmick on the floor and not on the bottom platform... I think the mak flying carpet is made better and is more deceptive because the gimmick is on the floor . The carpet also.... holds more weight .
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Mar 23, 2005 11:44PM)
Anymore naysayer's? What is really up with this effect? Does it wiggle too much, support a butterfly, whats the deal? I wanna hear some real feedback on this one! Why doesn't Chance Wolf make one that is really good and supportive?

Message: Posted by: cardone (Mar 24, 2005 09:15PM)
If I use it for my ventriloquist dummy it won't wiggle ....but if I put my 3and a half year old son on it .....it starts to wobble a bit .. any more weight and look out ....The "suppors" that hold up the board are made of a plastic/cardboard material and the look so flimsy that the weight of the board could be barely held up by them.... and like I said the gimick placement is in the wrong spot and ruins the illusion .... if you have assistants ....they could move away the cheap supports and you could hide the gimick with your B- - -Anymore questions please e mail me before you buy this . Good presentation will not save this one Thanks for your time .....CARDONE
cardonethemagician.com ...
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Mar 25, 2005 12:31AM)
My god I can't believe it's that bad! I have Sommers chair suspension and it is first rate and has lasted quite awhile! It's too bad to hear the x-lev is so bad...I'm glad I never bought it.

I wish Jim Sommers would come on here and give his point of veiw on the subject.

Message: Posted by: MikeDes (Mar 25, 2005 09:12AM)
Well, I performed it again last night and it was a big hit!
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 27, 2005 04:12PM)
Actually, it's not by Jim Sommers and Klamm. It's made Jim Sommers and sold by Klamm. It's a knockoff of a Harbin suspension, but with Jim Sommers, why would we not be surprised?

The original, by Robert Harbin, was made of steel, not aluminum, and would hold a real person. The one Klamm is selling is a piece of junk.

I had the Harbin book, and used the plans to make the suspension I used at the Texas Renaissance Festival and Scarborough Faire for some 16 years. I modified it heavily, because I felt it was too low and it wasn't stable enough. Mine was made of steel. It supports 250 pounds without difficulty.

I used it along with the Great White Hoop.

If you want to do this one, get the correct plans and build it sturdily. It will never let you down.
Message: Posted by: RJE (Mar 27, 2005 04:36PM)

How much does your version weigh? Is it portable at all or better suited for a long run at one venue?

Message: Posted by: MikeDes (Apr 1, 2005 07:11AM)
I post the same question from time to time hoping some talented builder will think about it:

Why hasn't anyone come up with a mid priced Walk-away X? Whenever people on the Café talk about this effect it's always the same thing. They want better quality than offered by the Sommers version but they don't want to pay $3,500 for the Blaney version.

If anyone comes up with something decent that could sell for around $1500, I think they would sell a ton of them.

Message: Posted by: Micheal Leath (Apr 1, 2005 06:46PM)

Have you seen Steinmeyer's Hot Air from Device & Illusion?
Message: Posted by: MikeDes (Apr 1, 2005 07:47PM)
On 2005-04-01 19:46, Micheal Leath wrote:

Have you seen Steinmeyer's Hot Air from Device & Illusion?

Nope. Do you have a link?
Message: Posted by: Micheal Leath (Apr 1, 2005 09:17PM)
I don't have a link. I do not believe that it is for sale anywhere. You'll have to see it in his book.
Message: Posted by: magicjohn2278 (Apr 3, 2005 07:42AM)
A friend had a "Hot Air" built, person who made it did a great job. - It's very deceptive and didn't cost a fortune to make....
Message: Posted by: Frank Tougas (Apr 21, 2005 11:09AM)
I have used the walk-away successfully in school shows. My version is sold by Tillford (don't hit me!) and IS made of steel. My only disappointment in the prop was the curtain around the board, flimsy and not really long enough. I quickly had another made for me and I like it.

On a small stage, like that of a school and some careful checking angles from various seats in the house, you can literally get gasps from your young audience.
I heard one young man sitting in the front row and way off to the side exclaim to his friend, "Man. that's not possible." I assume it was because I carefully checked all angles before opening the doors to the show or I may have heard, "Hey what the heck is that big hunk of steel pipe doing?" ;)

Frank Tougas
Message: Posted by: MikeDes (Apr 21, 2005 01:37PM)

The one sold by Tilford is built by Sommers and the same one that is sold by Klamm. That's the one in my avatar.