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Topic: Ace Assembly
Message: Posted by: cardguy (Dec 17, 2001 11:38PM)
I love performing Ace assemblies or any other effect where cards are separated and all end up in the same pile. Do any of you have any favorite methods or routines in this category? (preferably with un-gaffed cards) My favorite one is Shipwrecked from 21st Century Card Magic by James Swain. :cool:
Message: Posted by: Dorian Rhodell (Dec 18, 2001 12:23AM)
Mike Skinner's Sentimental Aces and Larry Jenning's version of Mc'Donald's Aces. (Even though it uses gaffs). Anyways, those are my two personal favorites.



Take care,

Dorian Rhodell
Message: Posted by: Thomas Wayne (Dec 18, 2001 08:17AM)
Personal favorites:



1) Open Travelers

2) Stencel Aces

3) L.S.D. Aces (Wesley James)



Regards,

Thomas Wayne
Message: Posted by: Leeo (Dec 18, 2001 08:41AM)
Peter Kane's Jazz Aces is a good effect and fairly easy to perform. I found it in Jerry Mentzer's Packet Tricks.
Message: Posted by: Doug Byrd (Dec 18, 2001 10:29AM)
Non-gimmicked versions:



Queens Debate

Jazz Ace



Gimmicked Versions:



A Dream of Aces
Message: Posted by: Jeff (Dec 18, 2001 12:37PM)
Peter Kane's Jazz Aces is tops in my book.



Jeff
Message: Posted by: DaveVegas (Dec 18, 2001 03:22PM)
I like solo flight aces in Expert card technique (page 254); always has a big impact on the audience.

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Message: Posted by: magisher (Dec 18, 2001 10:43PM)
I like Jazz aces and Shipwrecked, too. If any of you guys (and girls) read Visions, Great Scott has a cool one on there called Coeur de Lane assembly, where there is an instant repeat. I learned it, and it’s been getting lots of great reactions.
Message: Posted by: Paul (Dec 20, 2001 05:13PM)
My favourite ungaffed versions are Gerald Kosky’s One At A Time Aces, A Wagner version from a Harris book, possibly in his own too (in the latter two the spectators think they’ve seen the faces of all the cards placed on the aces. In Kosky’s you show the aces arriving one at a time. Also Ackermann’s Re-Assembled Finale where the cards fly back (but he uses queens rather than aces).

For those of you that like MacDonald’s I used an ungaffed version by Nash some years ago that tries to duplicate the cleaness of it, but is only really suitable for larger audiences. His books have recently been re-published. He has a great presentational touch that I use with MacDonald’s.

For MacDonalds I apparently have the aces selected by spectators, but switch via a Vernon strip out so they think they have seen the backs of the aces initially. I also use a different vanish for each packet (a Krenzel concept) but more or less the Mary Wolf handling from one of the Mendoza books.

Some of the newer assemblies mentioned by others here I have not come across but if you check out some of the stuff mentioned I am sure you will find it worth your while.
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Dec 20, 2001 10:31PM)
Anyone interested in my "Coeur d' Alene Assembly" may email for the routine. Based on a John Bannon routine from "Mirage," I have done away with the extra card--only four jokers and twelve red cards are used, there are no gaffs, and there is an instant and simultaneous repeat. Plus, it's pretty easy to do!
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Message: Posted by: Paul S (Jan 28, 2002 03:29PM)
How about Vernon's Slow Motion Aces from Stars of Magic? Two versions, one 'easier' the other advanced...Anybody get these down? I just do the Francis Carlyle one from Royal Road. Gaff wise, I think Bod K's Aces in their Faces is rather good. You can do other routines with the gaffs in the deck when you get comfortable with them, like the Hofzinser plot, or a variation of.

Paul S.
Message: Posted by: Tilt (Jan 28, 2002 04:05PM)
Modern Jazz Aces by Darwin Ortiz is a good one.

Tilt
Message: Posted by: Mark Ennis (Feb 5, 2002 05:00PM)
My favorite Ace Assemblies are the MacDonald's Aces (using the laydown sequence from Pallbearers Review by Stuart Judah) and Modern Jazz Aces by Darwin Ortiz.
Message: Posted by: Jeff (Feb 5, 2002 09:48PM)
I like The Ace Assembly routine from "Sleight of Dave" by Dave Williamson.
Also Jazz Aces.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: MagicalChris (Feb 5, 2002 10:39PM)
I recently got Lee Asher's 5 Card Stud, and he teaches an ace production called Thunderbird which is great. I highly suggest the video.

-Chris
Message: Posted by: sw'sfan (Feb 9, 2002 09:45AM)
I love Excelsis from The Vernon Chronicles Vol. 1
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Mar 6, 2002 09:00AM)
you might like reverse assembly handling from
Ken Simons book, Riffling the pasteboards.

Best David Neighbors
The Coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Paul (Mar 6, 2002 06:37PM)
Not come across that Dave, but I do like the reverse assembly plot for aces or coins.

Best wishes,
Paul Hallas
Message: Posted by: David Neighbors (Mar 8, 2002 11:50PM)
Hi Paul,

I have one of two left if you like.

Best David Neighbors
The Coinjurer
Message: Posted by: Steve Friedberg (Mar 9, 2002 12:17AM)
Darn it... now you guys have done it... sending me back to my copies of Hugard/Braue and Stars of Magic...

Seriously, this is one of the reasons this board has rapidly become my favorite: so many opinions about so many good options.

Thanks, folks!
Message: Posted by: Alewishus (Mar 9, 2002 12:47PM)
Though not an ace assembly in the classic sense, I love to perform the Vernash aces.
Message: Posted by: Matt Graves (Mar 10, 2002 04:52AM)
I love the Stanley Collins four-ace assembly in The Amateur Magician's Handbook. You deal all the aces face up, then three face-up cards on top of each. Then one by one you show the cards in each stack and the aces have vanished. Then you put the cards back on the deck, deal down four piles again and the aces have all moved to one pile . . . very very nifty. For anyone who wants to look it up, it's in the chapter "Tricks Where No Cards Are Chosen" - and it's about the second trick, I think.

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Message: Posted by: Tricky (Mar 10, 2002 07:04AM)
I love Henry Christs four ace trick from ETMCM 5 and Macdonalds aces are cool too. another I like is from Card College volume 1 Royal Flush Finale.
james

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Message: Posted by: Steve Knight (Mar 10, 2002 03:23PM)
My vote goes to John Bannon's Mirage Assembly. It's done with queens rather than aces (for a reason) and at the end of the routine the queens "instantly" disassemble back into their original packets for a nice clean finish.
Message: Posted by: Thomas Hudecsek (Mar 12, 2002 12:33AM)
my favorites are:
"De ja vue Jokers" by Darwin Ortiz a very convincing assembly where the jokers jump instantly back (negative: uses 5 jokers)

if absolutly inpromptu I love to use Daryls
"diamond jack" as described in Richards almanac and Daryls Joker assembly booklet
and "rock´n roll aces" I found in apocalypse but forget who invented it. it uses an Olram subtility for the ace layout, so the spectators know there are the 4 aces laying on the table. I love it :)
Message: Posted by: Paul (Mar 12, 2002 02:13PM)
I am not so keen on using jokers for assemblies. Court cards are ok sometimes but jokers are a cop out. You don't get four jokers in a deck.

Blank cards is an exception when you use Bannan's Twilight Zone Assembly :)

Paul Hallas
Message: Posted by: Thomas Hudecsek (Mar 13, 2002 12:44AM)
I am absolutly with you Paul. In the case of deja vue jokers, I make an exception because it is so clean looking, and the final showing of the four jokers in the leader packet before they jump instantly back is so convincing. The jokers are not taken out of the deck but are introduced for themselves in a small packet.

I don´t know Bannan´s twilight zone, what kind of assembly is that, please? :nod:
Message: Posted by: Julien (Mar 13, 2002 03:24AM)
I'm stunned that no one mentioned Gary KURTZ's EXCELLENT versions.

You can also find VERY GOOD and offbeat versions by DUVIVIER in "Magie Duvivier" by RACHERBAUMER.

There is also a pretty fine version in CARPENTER's "Modus Operandi".

Someone mentioned the Open travelers plot. One of the best versions of this different effect is by Jean-Jacques SANVERT, it combines ideas from ACKERMAN, DE CAMPS etc., very good indeed.

Hope this helps a bit...

You can find all these routines are worth-buying books/videos... go get 'em :)
Message: Posted by: Paul (Mar 13, 2002 12:37PM)
Thomas, Bannan's Twilight Zone Assembly is in Impossibilia. He talks about extra cards that only show themselves at certain times. The blank cards appear then you do a standard(?) 4 ace assembly using the blanks rather than aces. Of course some of the display moves you can do with 4 jokers you can do with the blanks so it looks very clean.

Until I actually used it I didn't realize how strongly it played. The "Twilight Zone" nature of it gives it extra appeal.

I believe he has a new book due out this year sometime.

Paul Hallas.
Message: Posted by: Tricky (Mar 13, 2002 03:32PM)
Paul, a guy in a magic shop showed me a trick where you put two face up and two face down(?) and he then pattered about the twilight zone and showed they were all the same way round. did Thomas Bannan invent this, I am looking for a source so I can see if the method I figured out is right.
james
Message: Posted by: Julien (Mar 14, 2002 05:59PM)
Thomas Bannan doesn't exist!

Read, it was "Thomas, Bannan"!

Which was a spelling mistake of (John) (BANNON's name (even Paul is not perfect! :)

The twilight thing the guy showed you is in Magie Duvivier by Jon RACHERBAUMER. Nothing in common, AT ALL. Magie Duvivier is a great book, very inspiring and refreshing...

Onward.