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Topic: Help with a mouse, cursor jumping around..
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 21, 2005 05:24PM)
Anyone good at computers in here?

I recenctly bought a Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse (I don't want some expensive stuff with 350 buttons on it..) So that's what I got.

When I start my computer, it works just the way I want it to for a few hours, then when I hold the mouse still, the cursor "shakes" a bit on the screen, and its a little difficult to maneuver in some directions.

also like 4-5 times each hour it goes wild and runs around all over the screen, this indeed gets annoying in Shooting games I play, like Soldat.

I tried to find a support email to Microsoft with no luck at all, so I thought I'd see in here if any of you people have experienced it or just have a solution, I would appreciate help. ^^

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: jonesc2ii (Apr 21, 2005 05:55PM)
Hmm. I have had the same problem but I don't really remember the fix.

The first time it happened it was so out of control that I thought I was being hacked and somebody was taking control of my mouse!

The first things to try would be cleaning your mouse and reinstalling the drivers. If that doesn't help, report back and I'll try to think what to try next.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 21, 2005 06:30PM)
It didn't come with any drivers really, I read a little on Microsoft about other mice but I think it may apply to this one as well, it was regarding the same topic, mouse jumping around like it had gotten insane.

They wrote that drivers of your old mouse might be installed and that those didn't apply to this one, but as this didn't come with any drivers at all, I am not sure what to install/uninstall to be honest..

To clean this one, it said in the manual the obly thing to do is to wipe off the "lens" of where the light comes from, I did that but still no help.

Maybe this mouse gets "exhausted" or something as it works well for the first hours but then goes nuts, I don't know really... I am not a big fan of restarting my computer 5-6 times a day either...
Message: Posted by: Justin2200 (Apr 21, 2005 07:03PM)
Upgrade to the latest drivers from the microsoft website. And if you are using USB, I recommend using the USB to PS2 adapter...if you don't have one, buy one.. geeks.com
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 21, 2005 07:28PM)
Yeah Justin, I did before, but it got insane there so I switched to USB.

I will try microsoft once more and look for some drivers.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 21, 2005 07:31PM)
Nah, there were only 3 downloads there on drivers, only one were for my mouse :/
None reading this working for MS or possible have any contact information? I have a hard time finding some Email adress for customer help regarding products, I have trouble finding any of all, for that matter...
Message: Posted by: Justin2200 (Apr 21, 2005 08:45PM)
I dunno then really. I use an MX1000 cordless laser mouse and PS2 never jumps but the PS2 port on my mobo is broke now so I have to use USB...it jumps around alittle.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Apr 22, 2005 04:19AM)
This could be something really simple:

1: What surface are you using your mouse on? Some surfaces have problems with optical mouse that make the drivers unable to calculate motion.

2: Could someone be pranking you? check out

http://www.rjlsoftware.com/software/entertainment/dirty/

There are plenty of programs that could run in the background, and after a couple hours start making your mouse act up...

Just a thought.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 22, 2005 06:49AM)
Daegs, I thought about the first thing first, the funny thing is, if I switch mouse mat when the mouse has gotten nuts, its all normal working well again, but after a few h it gets nuts again. :P But I use a mouse mat and they calculate the motion well, they even did on a white paper. :P

2. Nah, I doubt it actually, I am careful about running programs and I check which programs are running in the bg and all often, and I use process library to see what something is that I don't recognize from before.
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Apr 22, 2005 07:05AM)
It's the not the computer, you are experiencing a constant low grade earth quake. (delivered with a completely straight face.)

Mark
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 22, 2005 07:15AM)
Would probably take me a while to get
that joke if delivered in speaking. :P

But no more joke posts please everyone,
I'd like this problem solved. :P
Message: Posted by: Patrick Differ (Apr 22, 2005 04:14PM)
Drivers, schrmivers.

You experience low-grade interference from UFO communications. No joke. OK, maybe one more joke...

Have you checked the batteries?
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 22, 2005 05:35PM)
No batteries, its not cordless. :/

And I just bought it was well, started acting up the first day. :P
Message: Posted by: jonesc2ii (Apr 23, 2005 04:01PM)
What make is it? They may have a website where you could download a driver.

Or maybe talk to someone where you bought it from?

I really ought to make notes about when these things happen to me and the eventual solution.
Message: Posted by: Justin2200 (Apr 23, 2005 08:42PM)
[quote]
On 2005-04-22 08:05, lastnitesfun wrote:
It's the not the computer, you are experiencing a constant low grade earth quake. (delivered with a completely straight face.)

Mark
[/quote]

Just like a magician :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: rossmacrae (Apr 23, 2005 10:20PM)
Just turn it over and blow the dust off the LED - it happens to me daily.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 29, 2005 09:35PM)
Hm, nothing have helped.

My bro told me today that I should get a mouse mat that is black and reflects the light well, I saw on a forum though that you should NOT have something that reflects, this is weird, what really should I use? :S
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Apr 30, 2005 05:22AM)
It might be easier to just buy another mouse ! they aren't that expensive

Howard
Message: Posted by: Partizan (Apr 30, 2005 01:16PM)
This is a fault with the optical converter chip on the mouse circ board. Get the whole unit replaced by the seller.

This type of fault is the worst as you normaly check the drivers, connections, cleaness of the mouse ect. But on a hardwire fault it can take a lot of resources to track it down.
I had to use a 2500 oscilloscope to prove that the chip was defective. And the cost of the mouse was 28. I should not be put in a position where I know more then the tech support on a product.

In the world of optics there is no other option but precision. A minor fault will drop a system. Where I work, we have to static discharge ourselves on a regular basis. We also have to have a personal ground drain at all times.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Apr 30, 2005 03:32PM)
Well, optical mice are not used for precision.

A good ball mouse is WAY WAY WAY more precise, accurate, ect than any optical mouse, if you can keep it clean.

Optical mice look cool and don't require very much cleaning and can be used on many surfaces, that is what makes them good.


Anyway, no you shouldn't get something that reflects.

What is going on is that there is a small camera taking many pictures and comparing the pictures to see if the mouse has moved...

So you want something that the camera can easily pick up as as a specific point and figure out if it moved based on that.

Wood is good.


Try putting your optical mouse on a mirror, it won't pick up any movement because it's getting the same "image" of itself.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (Apr 30, 2005 11:03PM)
Good point Daegs. (About mouse seeing the same image over and over)

Partizan, I don't have a reciept left (Mouse worked well for a few days so I thought all'd be fine) but I will go there and see if there's any way to solve it.
Message: Posted by: Partizan (May 1, 2005 04:45PM)
[b]Well, optical mice are not used for precision.[/b]

No, But the components used to make the mouse work are. Just because they come in a cheap plastic package doesn't mean you should underestimate the technology.

You will also find that mechanical mice (those with balls) will not work on sand, this is due to the low rigidity of the surface.
Message: Posted by: Daegs (May 1, 2005 05:43PM)
Well yes there are tradeoffs, but You'll also find that Optical mice will not work on a Mirror because of the reflectiveness...

A good ball mouse will beat out a good optical mouse when it comes to accurate tracking and precision movements. Of course the optical has many advantages, but on the actual tracking of motion the ball wins out.

Just like a CRT monitor is way better picture quality and functionality than LCD, but LCD wins out because of the size....
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (May 2, 2005 01:19PM)
I use a Logitech optical mouse and get extreme presison, far more than with the 'ball' mice I've had. Check my front page...all art done with the optical mouse. Doesn't matter which mouse pad I use either. Great mouse!

Good luck.

Doug