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Topic: Looking for close up, hard hitting, ungimmicked jaw dropping magic with either cards or coins
Message: Posted by: enigmaticmagic (May 15, 2005 08:07PM)
Ok. so I went performing today and learned several things, 1. I carry to many gimmicks 2. I got the best reactions from things that got the spectator involved and 3. scripting is the beset thing I have done to my routines. now. back to number 1. I am carrying to many gimmicks. all I want to carry is say a deck of cards in one pocket, some coins in the other, and a gimmick (probably spongeballs) in my jacket, but still be able to drop peoples jaws. can anyone reccomend a BOOK on close up hard hitting jaw dropping magic, that is visual, and gets the spectators involved using only a deck of cards.

now can sombody do the same for coins, but this time, list a video (i learn poorly from books on coins, trying to decipher bobos was a headeache)

now a video on cards.

I really don't want a one trick wonder or packet effect. I am looking for stuff that will allow me to expand and set new routines. all visual hard hitting and ungimmicked. I am in theory quitting gimmicked effects.

oh and, I don't want to spend a fortune

(up to 100 dollars is fine)
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (May 15, 2005 08:15PM)
I'd try Jay Sankey' Rev. Coin Magic. In this dvd, Jay teaches a lot of excellent coin sleight techniques that do not involve gaffed coins. The results are some beautiful coin works/effects that are really hard hitting.
Message: Posted by: ashah (May 15, 2005 08:23PM)
On the Spot by Gregory Wilson has a couple of things that can be done with regular coins, as well as some stuff that use a spectator's ring, a pen, napkins, etc. It's great.
Message: Posted by: MagoStevo (May 15, 2005 08:45PM)
Greg's latest DVDs
Message: Posted by: enigmaticmagic (May 15, 2005 09:02PM)
Do you mean the sleight of dave videos, or magic farm, or somthing I don't know about...
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (May 15, 2005 09:04PM)
First of all sponge balls are not a gimmick, they reqiure skill as with all magic gimmicked or not..
Getting a video or book does not make one a slight of hand artist this takes time and years . my suggestion get good teacher this will advance you faster ..
I hope this helps.......
the godfather
Message: Posted by: enigmaticmagic (May 15, 2005 09:13PM)
Sorry. I'm may not know the deffinition of gimmck but what I really meant was I was carrying to many props. I do realise buying a magic book or video doesent make you a sleight of hand artist, nut I'm not as new as you think. check out my introduction thread, ive been doing magic inconsistantley for over three years. but got serious again in the past four months, and inconsistantley dosent mean a small magic kit, it means bobos, royal road, expert card technique, and expert at the card table. now I found it very difficult to learn from these books and have been using them frequently as reference sources. I am looking for some new magic to add to my current routines, that has to be close up and visual. any suggestions
Message: Posted by: magicduro (May 15, 2005 09:40PM)
For books, I recommend Dai Vernon's Inner Card Trilogy and Michael Ammar's book. Get both of them and you will be set for a long time.

By the way, if you've only been performing magic for 3 years inconsistantley, I would still consider you new.
Message: Posted by: enigmaticmagic (May 15, 2005 10:25PM)
Awsome. I will check all of this stuff. I was really trying to get the point across that I hadnt been doing magic for a week.anyway thanks for your help
Message: Posted by: Jimeuax (May 15, 2005 10:37PM)
Well then, you are in luck because their are more books and vids devoted to cards and coins than anything else. Real problems arise when you try to find GOOD stage or childrens magic.----------------cheers!----Jimeuax
Message: Posted by: kid iowa (May 15, 2005 11:18PM)
Routined Manipulation I, II, and Finale
The Magic of LePaul
Stars of Magic

Buy all of the above for about $50 and you'll be set.
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (May 15, 2005 11:32PM)
Off The Cuff, ON The Spot - Gregory Wilson

Cultural xChange 1 & 2 - Apollo an Shoot

POS series.

Knock Em Dead & Twists of Fate - R. Paul Wilson

there are a dozen gems out there. Try using the Café's search function.
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (May 16, 2005 04:02AM)
Miracle While You Wait by Mark Jenest is and awesome dvd with KILLER material on it!
Message: Posted by: HiraseMagic (May 16, 2005 04:14AM)
On the Spot, Off the Cuff, and Gregory Wilson in ACTION!
Message: Posted by: eryanic (May 16, 2005 05:14AM)
Agreed, Miracles while you wait by Mark Jenest...

Jay Sankey's Boris Pocus has some very nice stuff in it as well....

I reckon the Jay Sankey Best of series and Bill Malone on the Loose series all have very strong routines