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Topic: Females doing XCM
Message: Posted by: weapon (May 17, 2005 10:09AM)
I notice theres a lot of females who do XCM.. I was just wondering if you ladies find it hard somtimes to do the cuts..being that most of the time your hands are a lot smaller than the hands of men?
Message: Posted by: artwo (May 17, 2005 11:15AM)
There are?

I have never seen any girls doing XCM. Karen and Jessica do flourishes and other manipulation, but not XCM.

Examples? Links? Pictures? :P
Message: Posted by: Jordini (May 17, 2005 01:13PM)
Funny how "2" constitutes "a lot."
Message: Posted by: weapon (May 17, 2005 01:25PM)
I'll try to find some links but a friend of mine..had some undeground XCM competion video and theres was like a few girls in it..handling the cards pretty well from europe I think..even for regular flourishes I was wondering if its a lil more demanding for a female..i know some guys with small ands who cant even do a charlier cut..
Message: Posted by: kxxcheng (May 17, 2005 01:29PM)
Eh yeah I don't know any female XCMers...as in, HL probably doesn't have any female XCMers... the card stuff that I do generally wouldn't be qualified as XCM, more like flourishes.

Yeah I thought that I would have a lot of trouble with flourishes because I have small hands (even for a girl), but there's plenty that I can do. It doesn't seem to be that big of a disadvantage. There are still some moves that I can't do at all though, probably because of hand size.
Message: Posted by: weapon (May 17, 2005 01:37PM)
Ahh ok... *** I gotta find the name of that video I seen
Message: Posted by: Jordini (May 17, 2005 03:25PM)
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On 2005-05-17 14:29, kxxcheng wrote:
Eh yeah I don't know any female XCMers...as in, HL probably doesn't have any female XCMers...
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There was one female but she got banned before she signed up. A shame really.
Message: Posted by: jessicashurtz (May 17, 2005 05:48PM)
I would say that it's not such a huge deal. there is a lot of stuff I can't do which I sort of attribute to small hand size, but probably the majority of the time it's just a practise issue.

for one handed cuts, a lot are too difficult for me to do because of hand size. I can't do a a thumb cut (which I thought was a reverse charlier, apparently not) because my thumb doesn't span across the breadth of the card. moves like kryptonite, rev erdnase, scissor cuts, I can't do either.

oh and I guess I'm not really an XCMer, but for something like an armspread, I think it's easier for guys because they naturally develop forearms. this probably has more to do with practise but even guys who never work out will develop broader forearms, making it easier to balance the cards.
Message: Posted by: cheats (May 17, 2005 05:49PM)
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On 2005-05-17 14:25, weapon wrote:
I'll try to find some links but a friend of mine..had some undeground XCM competion video and theres was like a few girls in it..handling the cards pretty well from europe I think..even for regular flourishes I was wondering if its a lil more demanding for a female..i know some guys with small ands who cant even do a charlier cut..
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yes there are many in Europe. The best is Kati from Ulmen. I saw her cradle to grave routine on fire and her flaming moth throw on the metz female kartenmeister video . You will not find female xcmers on this forum.
Message: Posted by: Malakaneekeenai (May 17, 2005 08:38PM)
Where did you find a video of her doing it on fire? or maybe you were just WITH her. I would expect there to be an incredible amount of talent in ulmen. have you ever been there cheats?
also what is a moth throw?
Message: Posted by: Seif (May 17, 2005 11:19PM)
Moth throw is the final challenge of the Metz Prophecy.

Seif
Message: Posted by: cheats (May 18, 2005 12:46AM)
I never been there. I just watched the video. I will go there next year.
Message: Posted by: artwo (May 18, 2005 11:07AM)
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On 2005-05-18 00:19, Seif wrote:
Moth throw is the final challenge of the Metz Prophecy.
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.........deep?

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On 2005-05-17 18:48, jessicashurtz wrote:
moves like kryptonite, rev erdnase, scissor cuts, I can't do either.

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I used to think that you needed freakishly large hands for the revolution erdnase, but you really don't. If you can do Tudor's OHR properly, it should be possible to do a RevE with some practice.

Try RevE from hell to start, that's easier.
Message: Posted by: Jonas (May 18, 2005 02:02PM)
Or start practising Erdnase Shift, to learn the grip.

I can do Rev. E in both hands now, not as well in ly left hand though.
Message: Posted by: Malakaneekeenai (May 18, 2005 06:01PM)
Hey, seif or cheats, where do you think I could get information on the Metz Prophecy? specifically like rules and requirments. also, where can I find the video of kati doing the moth throw and her ctg? thanks,.
Message: Posted by: Seif (May 18, 2005 11:09PM)
I REALLY don't think you'll be getting that information mala...lol. I'm one of the more well respected members on HL and I have yet to get it myself.

Seif
Message: Posted by: cheats (May 19, 2005 09:26AM)
I got it on the internet. they germans and austrians use different words than devo uses. I think devo did that on purpose so others would not find it. but if you know the right words it is out there and easy.
Message: Posted by: Malakaneekeenai (May 19, 2005 09:33AM)
Oh....ok....*sniff*
Message: Posted by: Jonas (May 19, 2005 11:52AM)
Jeez, all threads going into discussion about De'vo....

Is De'vo female?
Big hands for being a girl, but off course,
he yet havent taken his hood off.

And many people think he had womanlike hands. :P

This thread is about Female XCM: ers and
I suppose De'vo is not a woman so..

...Back to topic...
Message: Posted by: cheats (May 19, 2005 12:46PM)
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On 2005-05-19 10:26, cheats wrote:
I got it on the internet. they germans and austrians use different words than devo uses. I think devo did that on purpose so others would not find it. but if you know the right words it is out there and easy.
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This is about how to find the videos of the girls. Will not give more clues than this to non xcmers.
Message: Posted by: artwo (May 19, 2005 01:51PM)
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On 2005-05-19 13:46, cheats wrote:

This is about how to find the videos of the girls. Will not give more clues than this to non xcmers.
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Why? So we don't... OMG, find out the secret of the prophecy of Shredni Vashtar! The Mongolian sect which has a god who invented cards!!!!
Message: Posted by: Seif (May 19, 2005 02:24PM)
No, it's so people like you don't get your hands on real original concepts and make thousands upon thousands of variations to dilute the idea and make it worthless.


Seif
Message: Posted by: Lonnie Dilan (May 24, 2005 03:54PM)
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On 2005-05-17 14:13, Jordini wrote:
Funny how "2" constitutes "a lot."
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That's funny!!