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Topic: Black Envelope, is the advertise right?
Message: Posted by: Hengky Ciptanegara (Oct 17, 2002 11:11PM)
For anyone who has the Black Envelope DVD, I wonder if the advertisement on this effect is right?

The advertisement said there is NO PALMING involved, but after I watched the demo (called Perfect Stop) on Magic Smith, I suspect that Bob did the "Gambler's Cop" or palming in his left hand a moment before he reached the envelope with his right hand.

Is the "Gambler's Cop" in the "Palming Category"?
If No,I think the advertisement is right, but if yes, it means....

Just my thougts,
Message: Posted by: MichaelSibbernsen (Oct 18, 2002 02:05AM)
Yes the Gamblers Cop is a palm.

The advertisement you saw might be referring to [i]one[/i] of the included routines; a "no palm card to envelope", which does indeed, not use a palm.
Message: Posted by: Craig Matsuoka (Oct 23, 2002 01:21PM)

I think you're mis-reading Bob's advertisement. There are several routines on the DVD. The one you saw (Perfect Stop) is not the one referred to in his ad copy as "no palm".

So which trick is it? Here's a hint. It's the one entitled "no palm card to envelope".
Message: Posted by: zauber (Oct 23, 2002 02:42PM)
Michelsibbernson and Craig are absolutely correct. There is absolute truth in the description of a "no-palm" method. But realize that it does require a "move" of sorts (very simple!! and requires only a modicum of effort) that one does in plain sight.
Message: Posted by: Hengky Ciptanegara (Oct 24, 2002 02:08AM)

I just want to say, that if all the trick on "Black Envelope" looks like "Perfect Stop" demo movie on magic smith, for me, it could not fool the magician.
It is very obivious that he did something and NOT the spectator itself who remove the card from the envelope.

Just my thougths,
Hengky :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: psychic (Oct 24, 2002 03:33AM)
Hengky, for all the routines in the DVD, you need to do that special move. If you're misled with the notion that its a "No Steal Signed Card to Envelope", then its not possible my friend.
There are two moves you need to master, or at least crucial for the effect. For both, you need some misdirection, timing, and watch your angle. (Hey, which trick isn't? Even a simple pinky break u need to watch for some eagle-eyed spectator right?)

Other than that, Bob is quite great an instructor. Kudos!

Hope than helps :dance: