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Topic: PayPal Sites
Message: Posted by: pseudotheo (Oct 23, 2002 04:11PM)
What is PayPal?

What are some of the good Magic sites with PayPal?
Message: Posted by: Alan Jackson (Oct 23, 2002 05:33PM)
PayPal is just a method of paying over the internet. Nothing to do with magic specifically. It's a company that acts as an intermediary between seller and buyer.
Message: Posted by: secondbaseman (Oct 24, 2002 09:38AM)
I got a quastion What if you by something using paypal Can the seller rip you off?? how does it goes because I can pay him the money but do I believe He will ship it to my house????

greetings niels
Message: Posted by: Callin (Oct 24, 2002 11:22AM)

Just like any credit card purchase through the mail, over the phone or online, there is a chance that the seller is not honest. If you buy something through Paypal and you do not receive the product, Paypal has a dispute process. You file a complaint against the seller with Paypal. They will then attempt to collect a refund for you from the seller. Though they cannot guarantee they will get you a refund, I can assure you the seller would loose his rights to sell though Paypal.

Unfortunately, there are some dishonest people selling online, but in my experience, I have purchased many things online through Paypal and have never had a problem. In fact, after checking a number of different options for online purchases from my shop, I decided Paypal was the best for the cost, security, and easy of purchase for both myself and my customers.

Richard Green
Message: Posted by: Chris Calabrese (Oct 25, 2002 01:48AM)
You only get your money back if you file a dispute within 30 days, as I unfortunately discovered recently. I purchased something from someone (not magic, this was computer related) and the person strung me along for two months. When I finally decided to try and get my money back, PayPal would do nothing because it was beyond their 30 day limit. (They will still let you file a complaint, and although I did so I never even got so much as a response from them.) I also made the mistake of paying through my checking account rather than with a credit card; if I had paid with a credit card I may have been able to dispute the charge with my credit card company.

I am out $300 and will never use PayPal again. Although I'm sure the vast majority of people that use PayPal have a good experience, if you use them and have a problem make sure you do something before you reach their 30 day time limit for recovery of funds.
Message: Posted by: DoctorAmazo (Oct 25, 2002 07:58AM)

Sorry about your bad experience. I have made probably 100 Paypal transactions over the past 2 yrs...with no probs whatsoever. Never had to file a dispute, so I can't comment on Paypal's response.

BUT, you hinted at an important point. Disputing a charge funded by a credit card will not help. Your card provider will not chargeback, because Paypal did what they were contracted to do...transfer funds to someone you designated. Your card company has no direct dealings with the guy who's ripping you off. Any relief will have to come from Paypal, not the card folks.
Message: Posted by: Samelei (Oct 25, 2002 09:16PM)
I Bought a trick from penguinmagic.com And waited 5 weeks for a $50.00 Trick. How pathetic. Absolutly not impressed at all!
Message: Posted by: lawrenceng (Oct 25, 2002 10:12PM)
Sounds like a lot depeneds on the integrity of seller. Are there any ways we can protect ouselves as buyers? Optional insurance etc? I just made my first purchase on paypal, and now I am praying it's going to work out to be a good start instead of a nightmare

lawrenceng :righton: