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Topic: Wrist Chopper
Message: Posted by: catbertek (Aug 11, 2005 08:32PM)
Hello all!
I have a question for more experienced stage magicians.
I do closeup magic now and am considering expanding a bit into some stage.

There is a cool wrist chopper at my local magic shop that I am looking at
but I have no idea if this is a good price. I have some smaller parlor
style stuff (e.g. circle ^2) but this would be my first "big prop"
investment.

It is a Delbin 2-hole wrist chopper made in 1975, looks in great shape.
number 111 of 200. asking is $2500. is that too little or too much or
just about right?

There is also a firecage for sale for about half that but I think it would
be quite a bit harder for me to transport.

Thanks in advance for any advice or info.

Catbertek
Message: Posted by: Michael Messing (Aug 11, 2005 08:46PM)
Since the Delbin isn't being made anymore, the price may be right. On the other hand, you might want to consider this two-hole wrist chopper: http://www.dazzlingmagic.com/new_items.htm

This is a new design and my understanding is that it doesn't work like the Delbin so it's not a knock-off. It's well made. I bought one from Laflin Magic. (They don't have it on their website but the do sell it.)

It's a lot less expensive and is basically the same effect.
Message: Posted by: rocky clements (Aug 12, 2005 09:22PM)
I have seen four or five of the Delben Two Hole Wrist Choppers sell in the past few years. All have been in the $800-1,200 range. Most people who have seen the various versions of this prop agree that the Owen model is by far the best, and even a new Owen is less than the $2,500 for the Delben. I think you can even have a custom ATA case for the Owen and still be less than 2,500. I would highly recommend that route as it is a beautiful prop.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Aug 13, 2005 02:09PM)
Even if you are a collector of Ben Stone's stuff the price is on the high side. They come up on eBay from time to time and sell for about $1,200.00 USD. I have seen them go for as low as $250.00 (that was a rare sale!).

If you are buying a prop to use regularly and to perform with in your act (you do have an act don't you?)then go with something like Mikey is recommending above.

Honestly, unless you are working very regularly (daily or at least several times a week) I wouldn't buy the Owen model. It is the best and it is made for the working professional.

What are your performance goals? What is your performing character? How does any particular routine and prop fit your character? These are questions you need to answer before you spend thousands on props.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Aug 13, 2005 02:25PM)
Hi Cat:

I agree with the others - $2500.00 for is much too high, even if the Delben model is in pristine mint condition. I'm surprised that others have seen the Delben model go as high as $1000.00, as I've seen three of them on ebay - the highest priced was $700.00.

I've got my eyes on the Fairchild Model that MagicMikey mentioned. In fact, I called Joe Eddie Fairchild a couple of days ago, and he answered all my questions about this new chopper. It definitely sounds like a big step ahead of the Delben model. I'm saving up for the Fairchild model now.

Ron
Message: Posted by: magicmanx (Sep 20, 2005 09:25AM)
If you are just "considering" stage magic... it seems a very expensive prop to buy. Why not buy some lower priced stage magic...work out a routine and see if stage magic is for you... because close up and stage magic is like chalk and cheese...it might not be for you ?