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Topic: Strait jacket difficulty
Message: Posted by: God-glorified (Aug 17, 2005 11:20PM)
Greetings again fellas,
This question is a little different and something I couldn't find in other posts. Im looking at the non gaffed posey without belly and side loops....
My question is this, how much practice do you suppose is the average for this type. Would an ungimmicked without the belly and side loops take a few days to work out quickly or more along the lines of weeks/months?
Any help is appreciated
(sorry for the many jacket questions and I appreciate all that you guys have done here!)
Message: Posted by: The Amazing Michael (Aug 18, 2005 04:23AM)
G.G., you can get a Posey jacket with the loops disabled (sewn down onto the body of the jacket) and with the friction buckles replaced with high quality roller buckles and gromets at cannonsgreatescapes.com . Go to the on-line catalog, select "more spectacular escapes" then scroll down to "old style Posey roller buckle straitjacket". This is the jacket you are asking about. You will want to order one size smaller than the size chart says because the size chart is designed for patient use. They recomend that the jacket not be tight, in fact, they recomend that you be able to slide your hand inbetween the strap and the patient's body.....ha! This does not fly in the escape business. You will want the jacket to fit a bit tighter than that, and I do not feel that it will make the escape all that much more difficult. As far as how long it will take you to learn to work the jacket, well, that depends on you. If you are flexible and tolerent of pain, then you will have no trouble at all. If pain is a problem, then you will need to learn some of the straitjacket master's secrets. The secrets that I refer to can be obtained from John Novak's book "The Art of Escape (vol.4) Escape from a Straitjacket". You can also check out a video by Jay Leslie both can be found in the book/video section of Cannons Great Escapes on-line catalog. I believe you can get a discount on either one of these fine products if you buy a straitjacket from them. I am sorry that I do not discuss secrets of the trade on the open forum, there are too many outsiders that have access to these forums. I hope this helps you, and by the way, I have nothing to gain by pointing you towards Cannons Great Escapes.....I have bought from them before and I have had nothing but great experiences with their products and service. Good luck, Mike
Message: Posted by: God-glorified (Aug 18, 2005 07:59AM)
Thanks Mike good post
Message: Posted by: The Amazing Michael (Aug 19, 2005 03:01AM)
Any time. Mike
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Aug 21, 2005 02:14PM)
Anyone here have any Advice for getting your arms out of a Humane SJ. Not Gimmicked/Mocked. Don,
Message: Posted by: Margarette (Aug 21, 2005 06:15PM)
Just lots of practice with someone who can really cinch you into the jacket....that's how I learned. Another thing I learned is to work the buckles through the canvas. So, for me, getting the arms out of the jacket isn't essential for the escape...and for those of you who have seen Hannah-Belle, getting the arm over the head isn't necessary for me, either!

Message: Posted by: The Amazing Michael (Aug 21, 2005 11:33PM)
Don, when I was much more active in doing shows, I was using a Humane jacket (ungimmicked). My way out of the jacket was pretty standard: work the arms over the head, pull the arms over the head and behind the back (with the sleeve straps still buckeled together), work the croch strap through the canvas, pull the arms back over the head, then use my boot and the still strapped sleeves to pull the jacket over my head (like HOUDINI did it). I never had a problem with the Humane jacket, even when some a**hole tried to tear the straps off the jacket to get it just a little bit tighter. What kind of problems are you having? I would be more than happy to help. The straitjacket is my favorite escape prop and it is the one that I have the most experience with. You can PM me about it too if you want. The door is always open Donster. All the best, Mike
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Aug 22, 2005 06:24AM)
There’s a ton of good advice here. Go back and reread Michael’s long post above. He mentions the Jay Leslie straightjacket video. That is the one to buy if you want to learn to escape from an ungimmicked Humane or “Old Style” Posey jacket. It gives clear instruction on how to steal the slack you need. It is a best buy for the beginning straightjacket performer. It will show you things that would take paragraphs to describe. Just buy it!
Message: Posted by: The Donster (Aug 22, 2005 06:08PM)
I have the Jay Leslie Video. I steal so much slack that they cant buckle up the strap. what I'll like to do is get my arm down like tony curtis does in the Movie Houdini. Don,
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Aug 22, 2005 07:38PM)
Donster, there are two real easy methods to pull that off (pun intended) that come immediately to mind. First get the next size larger jacket, the size plus the slack and you can do just about what you want in terms of presentation. The second is to have a jacket built or modified with the DeVal subtlety/gimmick (one small change and nothing to do with the belts or buckles).