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Topic: Where can I find a good buskers table for a decent price
Message: Posted by: HatTrix (Aug 20, 2005 10:29PM)
Hey guys I am new to busking I have done walk around and Have a good routine I think and I would like to start busking but where could I find a good buskers table for a decent price.

for my routine I was thinking
-linking rings
-acr
-biddle trick
-cut and restore professors night mare (one large routine)
-cup and balls
Message: Posted by: Gideon Sylvan (Aug 20, 2005 11:39PM)
Build one, that is what I did, and trust me it is easier than it looks. Buy a frame, a tray stand a close up pad (big one), and just work around the rest.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Aug 21, 2005 01:47AM)
I'm with Gideon on this one. A short trip to Home Depot, a trip to the restaurant supply store, and the fabric store and you are in business. I prefer car upholstery fabric over a close up mat just thumb tacked to the plywood. Lay the frame over that and bingo, you are good to go.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: magic_sailor (Aug 21, 2005 01:50AM)
I also have to agree with the others you can spend up to 1000 dollars for a table but build one yourself for like 30-50 bucks that is peronalized to you.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Aug 21, 2005 03:47AM)
I make mine from old frames, tow thin sheets of ply wood. One I have cut to the insert of the frame this one I rap my choosing fabric around the next sheet is cut to the same size of the outer edge of the frame. A bit of glue a few tacks and full house.
Mario
PS Hear is a pic of the first one I made a tag small but soild.
http://www.streetcredmission.co.uk/MariosNewSite/MariosSiteCloseUp.html
Message: Posted by: sikkolo (Aug 22, 2005 06:43AM)
Hi, this is my magic table I build it by my own. Maybe you can find it interesting here are some photos:
http://www.imaybestupid.com/stuff/magictable/
As you can see I designed it for kids show mainly, but I also use it in street.

You can keep your props there and use it as a bag, then open it and use as a table.
That's easy to do if you have any question just ask!
Luca
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 22, 2005 05:22PM)
I usually use a small Lefler Pro table with one of these on top

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/tables/index.cfm

I'm having one more made with a velvet/fleece-padded top but the photo is
a much busker-esque suede covered, firm padded top for durability.

it's not meant as a close-up surface for cards and coins but it's exceptional for
cups and balls, shells, setting drinks on, etc.

if you're making one for busking, you might consider padding it with fleece and covering it with suede.

I love it
Message: Posted by: Euangelion (Aug 22, 2005 06:17PM)
Very nice, Luka. A great concept. Welcome to the Café.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Aug 22, 2005 09:14PM)
Check out my post in "the workshop" I just made an awesome one for myself about 60$.

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=128130&forum=26&0

It's a converted Belamonte Orchestra sheet music Stand, and it'll last a lifetime! I love it!
Message: Posted by: HatTrix (Aug 26, 2005 10:48PM)
Thanks for the tips I will start building my own It seems pretty easy what do yout think about my current routine?
Message: Posted by: chrisrkline (Aug 27, 2005 10:21AM)
How will you incorporate the ACR and Biddle Tricks, both fairly close-up effects in and around larger group effects like the rings and cups. Are you going to try for a larger crowd or for a handful of people?
Message: Posted by: ringmaster (Aug 27, 2005 12:23PM)
Rip a piece of paneling off a junked moble home.
Lay a piece of auto headliner remnant from a fabric store or top shop on it.
Frame the whole thing inside a metal poster frame from a yard sale.
Set it on a keyboard stand from a yard sale or a waiters stand from a (used) resturant supply store.
Worked for me.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 28, 2005 02:41AM)
There is a new TV tray stand that is being advertised on television fairly inexpensively. It folds and adjusts to various angles. I could easily imagine using it as a framework for a performing table. It will support 50 pounds.

So they say.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 28, 2005 10:33AM)
Those are typically too short but you never know.
Message: Posted by: tabman (Aug 28, 2005 10:48AM)
They are the standard tv table height of 25" high it looks like. Perfect for the magician who likes to work on his knees.

-=tabman
Message: Posted by: tabman (Aug 28, 2005 05:19PM)
[quote]On 2005-08-28 03:41, Bill Palmer wrote:It will support 50 pounds.[/quote]

Bill.

I've been enjoying reading through your new column here on the Café. I tried to leave you a comment but it doesn't allow posting so I thought I'd mention it here.

All the best to you,

-=tabman
Message: Posted by: Euangelion (Aug 29, 2005 03:42PM)
I'm all for people being on their knees.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 29, 2005 04:35PM)
These are adjustable height tables. But it doesn't say anywhere on their web site how high they will adjust. Judging by the arm of the sofa, they might be about 30 inches tall. For 2 for $30, it's not a bad deal, though.

The story is here http://www.tablemate.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=tablemate/story.html
Message: Posted by: tabman (Aug 29, 2005 05:24PM)
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On 2005-08-29 16:42, Euangelion wrote: I'm all for people being on their knees.
[/quote]

Amen!!

-=tabman
Message: Posted by: HatTrix (Aug 29, 2005 07:39PM)
Thanks for the tips guys I have desided to build one I just need to find a cheap waiters stand. I can make the table top my self. thanks again.
Message: Posted by: Jason Fleming (Aug 29, 2005 08:43PM)
Cheap waiter's stands are available on ebay, but check the shipping cost as it might be cheaper to buy one at a restaurant supply store as others have suggested. I, too, bought one at such a supply store for around $30.

Best,
jason
Message: Posted by: tabman (Aug 29, 2005 10:19PM)
Go to a large music store and buy a cheap X frame keyboard stand if you cant find a waiters stand.

-=tabman
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Aug 30, 2005 01:26AM)
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On 2005-08-29 20:39, HatTrix wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys I have desided to build one I just need to find a cheap waiters stand. I can make the table top my self. thanks again.
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That's exactly what I did. Check my website in my sig for pictures.

I recommend the "tall" waiter's stand and replacing the straps so it can be lowered back down to standard height. This will give you a much wider base for a good sized (mine is 22x32) table top.
Message: Posted by: Euangelion (Aug 30, 2005 05:55AM)
[quote]
On 2005-08-30 02:26, Dave VanVranken wrote:
[quote]
On 2005-08-29 20:39, HatTrix wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys I have desided to build one I just need to find a cheap waiters stand. I can make the table top my self. thanks again.
[/quote]

That's exactly what I did. Check my website in my sig for pictures.

I recommend the "tall" waiter's stand and replacing the straps so it can be lowered back down to standard height. This will give you a much wider base for a good sized (mine is 22x32) table top.
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Dave, that is exactly what I've done this week with my new table from Tabman. I made one additional adaptation to the strapping. I put grommets on the straps in three places to make the table height adjustable and will drill pegs into the one side to hook them onto. A little velcro in the right places to hold the around and back to themselves to eliminate them from dangling loose.
Message: Posted by: Jacob Grier (Aug 30, 2005 08:23PM)
I posted last a while ago about an inexpensive table I was able to put together. If you'd like to take a look, the details are here:

[url]http://www.jacobgrier.com/magicblog/archives/000246.html[/url]

I recently got one of Tabman's tables, too, and have been very happy with it. I plan on posting about it in the near future.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 30, 2005 10:16PM)
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On 2005-08-21 04:47, Mario Morris wrote:
I make mine from old frames, tow thin sheets of ply wood. One I have cut to the insert of the frame this one I rap my choosing fabric around the next sheet is cut to the same size of the outer edge of the frame. A bit of glue a few tacks and full house.
Mario
PS Hear is a pic of the first one I made a tag small but soild.
http://www.streetcredmission.co.uk/MariosNewSite/MariosSiteCloseUp.html
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I'm not authorized to view that page! :cry:
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Aug 31, 2005 01:00PM)
Wordwrap killed the link. Paste both lines together in your browser's address box and you should be fine.

Or, just [url=http://www.streetcredmission.co.uk/MariosNewSite/MariosSiteCloseUp.html]click here[/url] to go to his page.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Aug 31, 2005 02:51PM)
[quote]
On 2005-08-31 14:00, Dave VanVranken wrote:
Wordwrap killed the link. Paste both lines together in your browser's address box and you should be fine.

Or, just [url=http://www.streetcredmission.co.uk/MariosNewSite/MariosSiteCloseUp.html]click here[/url] to go to his page.
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Didn't even notice the broken wrap. My bad. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Sep 2, 2005 08:50PM)
Save money in the long run, have Tabman make one for you. It will be right and it will last a loooooooooooooooong time.
Message: Posted by: kOnO (Oct 6, 2005 10:04PM)
[quote]
On 2005-08-29 17:35, Bill Palmer wrote:
...they might be about 30 inches tall. For 2 for $30, it's not a bad deal, though.

The story is here http://www.tablemate.com/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=tablemate/story.html
[/quote]

Bill,

Not to be a Smart A** or anything but I just checked out the table site and the deal is if you by 2 @ 29.95 EACH you get a 3rd one free.
That's a little more expensive and I don't know if they are worth the cost.

kOnO
Message: Posted by: foolsnobody (Oct 6, 2005 11:02PM)
Is it correct to say that if you are not "handy" enough to make your own table (and other props) you probably don't have "the right stuff" to perform in the street in the first place? ;-)

I'm Jewish and I flunked "shop" class. So sue me!
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Oct 7, 2005 12:23AM)
No. That is not correct.
I don't think you need to be too handy. Just interested in doing a good job
and putting forth the effort.

Some are more interested in perfecting their magic and leaving the
prop-making to someone else.

I personally think everybody should try making their own stuff to
see how it goes. Might give them some ideas. It might also work out just right.
They might realize they're better off buying something.
Message: Posted by: MagiUlysses (Oct 7, 2005 08:47AM)
Greetings and Salutations,

I think you hit it on the head, Frank. Give it a try if you are so inclined but know your limitations. I've got four tops around -- one's for practice, one is a backup-back-up, the first I gave to my nephew who's just getting started, and the fourth, and the last one is pretty good, so I know the fifth one will be my keeper and principal top. I use a tall tray jack stand, but am looking at a keyboard stand as well, for the legs. (I'm not even going to take a stab at constructing those!) I'm thinking given what I've spent, or will spend in total on the five tops I could have purchased a top but I had some fun, learned a few things, and have three tops I can experiment on to come up with a good sign for the "back" of my table top ala Cellini/Gazzo advertiser.

Just my $.02 (USD) worth. YMMV

Joe in KC

PS. Frank, Tabman and SFS make awesome looking table tops!
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 8, 2005 12:13AM)
[quote]
On 2005-08-22 07:43, sikkolo wrote:
Hi, this is my magic table I build it by my own. Maybe you can find it interesting here are some photos:
http://www.imaybestupid.com/stuff/magictable/
As you can see I designed it for kids show mainly, but I also use it in street.

You can keep your props there and use it as a bag, then open it and use as a table.
That's easy to do if you have any question just ask!
Luca
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Of course, it helps if you're physically creative, can run a jigsaw AND have some ability with a paintbrush! If I made a table, it would look NOTHING like that. It would look like nothing on Earth! Unfortunately, it also would look NOTHING like a table!
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Oct 8, 2005 12:37AM)
I made my own and used it for about 6 months or so.
I boycotted my own table when I got my photo in the paper with my own table.

I now have that one of my best friend makes. he makes all my tables.
Why? because he wants to do wood work and did a damm fine job on mine.
And I don't have the patience for making a great one.

I still use my original one to hold props for my stand-up shows back stage.

It probably takes him longer than others to do them since they're done one at a time but he's selling them all over the world now.

Wow! Puts a smile on my face and earns him a few bucks to get more material for more tables. Apparently a few burgundy table tops are about to be finished.
I hope I get one.

If you can make your own stuff, make it, and use it.
Message: Posted by: garcia00 (Nov 28, 2005 06:11PM)
Here is a prototype I just completed:

I will be using a keyboard stand, because it allows for varying heights. The table top can also sit on a regular table. Am going to add a huge magnet under table, and slots to steal cards and coins from. This one is made of walnut and made like a casino blackjack table in that the border part can be removed quickly to replace the felt. Next version will clean up the screws in the rear of the table. I will add a servant, but don't want it to be noticable. Probably conceal it on the leading edge of a small drawer, allowing it to be concealed under table when not in use. Smooth edge on rear of table will allow.....[you know what]

Drawback I see right now is the weight. It is made of solid walnut, carefully grain matched, 1 1/2 in thick at the sides. But it is incredibly sturdy

Click for pictures of prototype

http://www.dancingbearakitas.com/auctionpix/busking%20table.htm

Comments appreciated. I might make a few more if there is interest. It is pretty time intensive, and the materials are not cheap (1/4 inch neoprene under the felt, ect). This one is walnut. I can make cherry and oak as well. I wanted a large area to allow for card spreads which are not cramped onto a closeup pad, as well as the ability to mix the cards on the table like in vegas.
Message: Posted by: magicguy67 (Nov 28, 2005 07:48PM)
Make your own is my best advice.
Message: Posted by: John Bowlin (Nov 28, 2005 08:34PM)
Inexpensive tray stand here http://www.katom.com/158-1551.html
Message: Posted by: Ben Whiting (Nov 29, 2005 01:17AM)
You can find instructions for building your own table in Cellini's book, "The Royal Touch" I would definitely recommend doing that. I think you can also buy a Cellini table from Horbi Kull at http://www.zauberladen.com but they are expensive and based out of Zurich, Switzerland. If I may make one more recommendation think carefully about combining your cut and restored/professor's nightmare rope routine. I used to do that combination routine but found that it was alittle long for the majority of my crowds and decided to drop the professor's nightmare part of the routine. Everyone's crowds are different but that's just what worked best for me.
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Nov 29, 2005 03:50AM)
The zauberladen table is not hieght adjustable, the scoundrels table is.
For a working / travel set up I use the Starsini top on a keyboard stand bottom (The Starsini top is the lightest I have found).
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Nov 29, 2005 10:36AM)
Any Waiter's tray stand can be adjustable if you cut off the webbing and replace them with adjustable luggage straps.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Nov 29, 2005 01:11PM)
[quote]
On 2005-08-30 23:16, mandrake01 wrote:
[quote]
On 2005-08-21 04:47, Mario Morris wrote:
I make mine from old frames, tow thin sheets of ply wood. One I have cut to the insert of the frame this one I rap my choosing fabric around the next sheet is cut to the same size of the outer edge of the frame. A bit of glue a few tacks and full house.
Mario
PS Hear is a pic of the first one I made a tag small but soild.
http://www.streetcredmission.co.uk/MariosNewSite/MariosSiteCloseUp.html
[/quote]

I'm not authorized to view that page! :cry:
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Ah! It worked that time!