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Topic: A quick little anecdote on exposure...
Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Nov 15, 2005 05:44PM)
I was in my local magic store looking for a better zombie gimmick, and the store owner pulls one off the shelf to show me. Me and another customer who just happened to idle up watch as he inserts the gimmick, and puts the cloth over the ball. Me and the customer both clearly see the man attach the gimmick. We both know exactly what's going on.

And yet, as soon as the gimmick is covered, the ball is floating. Really and truly floating. My eyes are telling me: That's impossible, how can that silver ball float like that? While my brain says: Dummy, you just SAW how it's done! And my eyes promptly reply: Wow! I wonder how he gets that ball to float like that?!

My eyes won't listen to my brain.

It was so bizarre to see an illusion that was still so convincing even with the secret right there in front. Me and the customer looked at each other and laughed because it was so amazing.

I wonder if perhaps "exposure" is more damaging to self-working tricks and gadgets and less so to magic that requires skill?
Message: Posted by: MattWayne (Nov 15, 2005 05:56PM)
Just wait till you see a full routine and the possibilities with the Zombie ball. Very clever- CLASSIC piece of magic at it's best. Did he do a full routine for you? Once you're in magic for a long time- you come to repect magic as a whole. Carefree of the methods; because you know most of them. And it's still just as entertaining; if not more entertaining then. Because the concepts are so very simplex that you're amazed at everyone else being amazed at such a simple piece of magic. Or you have the knowledge that is required to 'figure it out.'

best regards,
Matt Tomasko
Message: Posted by: Cory Gallupe (Nov 15, 2005 06:37PM)
Pretty amazing. I know that if some people knew how we do some of our tricks, they would find that more amazing than the wonder and mystery of the trick itself! But, that's SOME of them, not necessarily all of them! But still, I never expose a secret.
Message: Posted by: Eirik (Nov 16, 2005 03:29AM)
Hammiesink has a valued point, but I do think it's special to some effects cause most effects loose it's mystical touch if you see the workings before you see it performed.
As mentioned a solid Zombie routine looks just as good even if you know how it's done, but that is all in the presentation.
On a Finn Jon lecture I saw him strap up and perform this routine, he performs it to the level that I was sure he was using other gimmicks than the one I knew, I actually had to ask him and make him show me again, this time I was standing from another angle, still shaking my head. :)

-e-
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Nov 16, 2005 07:53AM)
General Grant has a wonderful gimmick, it's the one I use. I'm still playing with the idea of letting go of enough money to get a look at Losander's though. It's supposed to be entirely different.
Message: Posted by: Kent Wong (Nov 16, 2005 08:37AM)
I've been searching for General Grant's gimmick for some time now. Any idea who I should contact?

Kent
Message: Posted by: MattWayne (Nov 16, 2005 08:43AM)
General Grant- ahhh amazing Zombie ball routine. He's one of three performers that I just enjoy watching perform this routine.

best always,
Matt Tomasko
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Nov 16, 2005 12:35PM)
Oh my. I saw him at SamCon. Contact Diamonds magic http://www.diamondsmagic.com The owner is Eddie Gardner. Tell him Rik sent you.
Message: Posted by: LDM (Nov 16, 2005 02:46PM)
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On 2005-11-16 04:29, Eirik wrote:
Hammiesink has a valued point, but I do think it's special to some effects cause most effects loose it's mystical touch if you see the workings before you see it performed.
As mentioned a solid Zombie routine looks just as good even if you know how it's done, but that is all in the presentation.[/quote]
I agree. If you're in a magic shop, then obviously it's a "trick". However, in "real situations" then it is much more mystical and to the spectators, magical.
Message: Posted by: MagicDan21 (Nov 22, 2005 11:26PM)
Haha I always second guess myself when I see a trick I already know how to do.
Message: Posted by: Thoughtreader (Nov 25, 2005 12:50PM)
The worst cases of exposure usually come from magicians who perform before they are ready. This accounts for far more exposure to the public on the methods than all the television exposure shows and books made for public consumption all added together.
PSIncerely Yours,
Paul Alberstat
Message: Posted by: Mustang (Nov 26, 2005 06:20AM)
"Magicians guard an empty safe"

Isn't it the truth :)
Magicman101... if only they knew hahahaha.