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Topic: Mini Copperfield?
Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Nov 28, 2005 05:01PM)
I'm not a big fan of self-working gadgets and magic that requires too much potentially suspicious equipment. Perhaps my personality doesn't lend itself as well to the comedy and patter, and hence I try to pump most of my skill into the effects.


After being blown away by the Crystal Cleaver, I had an idea. What if one were to purchase only THE best plastic gadget Tenyo-type effects, and build a mini "large stage illusion" routine?

Has anyone done this? Any ideas? Any trick suggestions? Comments? Etc?
Message: Posted by: Chris Miller (Nov 28, 2005 08:15PM)
I think the audience would be much too small :) Tenyo has some clever stuff, but often the props look kind of cheap. I liked the Eye of the Idol, but wished it was a bit more upscale. ... In any event, I'm skeptical of the appeal of the mini stage illusion show, but don't let my opinion sway you. I just don't see how to sell it. The focus would have to be on the entertainment, not the tricks.

Message: Posted by: Kipp Sherry (Nov 29, 2005 08:21AM)
Mini stage. I think the proper term would be "Parlor". Parlor tricks are those that are a little to big for close up but not really large enough to require or fill a stage. Parlor effects work great for audiences up to about 100. Maybe this is what you were already thinking about, but if not, maybe you should be thinking this way.

Example: Guillotine

Close up = Finger Chopper
Parolor = Arm Chopper
Stage = Head Chopper

Break a wand,
Kipp Sherry
Message: Posted by: Payne (Nov 29, 2005 09:49AM)
On 2005-11-28 21:15, Magical_Mystifier wrote:

The focus would have to be on the entertainment, not the tricks.


Shouldn't the focus always be on the entertainment?
I think a miniature illusion show has possibilities. Go for it. if nothing else it will be a learning experience.
Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Nov 29, 2005 10:40AM)
Parlor, stage, whatever. I was just thinking of ways to actually make use of self-working plastic crap. I could even make a little stage with lights and fog!!!
Message: Posted by: Kipp Sherry (Nov 29, 2005 02:08PM)

Please accept my apologies.
I obviously made a bad assumption that since this was posted in the "New to Magic" forum that I was addressing someone with limited knowledge of magic. My bad.
I also obviously misunderstood the question when you asked:[quote]
Has anyone done this? Any ideas? Any trick suggestions? Comments? Etc?
Again, I apologize.
Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Nov 29, 2005 02:16PM)
You don't have anything to apologize for; except not giving any ideas, comments, or criticisms. So let's hear your thoughts!
Message: Posted by: calexa (Dec 3, 2005 12:50PM)
I think it is possible to do a mini illusion show. But I would not do it with Tenyo articles - they look too cheap.

Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Dec 5, 2005 01:13PM)
What would you use? I think Tenyo does look cheap but some of their illusions are pretty neat. I'm kind of surprised that there aren't better versions of these things. My favorite trick in my magic set growing up was always the Spiked Coin (nails go through a small box containing a coin). It's self-working and not much room for skill or presentation, but most people were actually pretty amazed by it, and yet there only seems to be a crappy plastic version on the market. Even the ball and vase has a metal version floating around...
Message: Posted by: calamari (Dec 5, 2005 05:03PM)
It could be interesting to do a show like dress your hands up like magicians and build a stage you could work your hands on and do a bunch of small illusions, and I think the campy nature of an act like this would lend itself nicely to Tenyo products, kind of a cheesy magic mini illusion show, I don't think you could pull off a full show like this but as part of the rest of a show ( ie.. one peice of a performance) might be cool.
Message: Posted by: calamari (Dec 5, 2005 05:06PM)
Also someone did put out a brass version of the spiked coin some years ago I forget who maybe someone else will have the company.
Message: Posted by: Hammiesink (Dec 5, 2005 06:11PM)
Well, I think it could work for me since I'm much more of a "table" performer, small group performer. I could see pulling out a case, opening it up, and it being a miniature stage with lights and so on and doing an entire show. Short, of course. Close up and move on to the next table.

Tenyo even has a small version of Houdini's metamorphosis. This is just screaming at me to be used somehow...