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Topic: Need help in choosing a Peek wallet!
Message: Posted by: Jared (Jan 6, 2006 02:35PM)
While my quest for finding an original SUC continues........ I'm trying to find a suitable peek wallet that is nearly as impressive. The considerations include: The Stealth (Assassin might be too much), Brain Scan Wallet, Caper Case, and the Outlaw.

My criteria includes:

1/ I want be able to obtain the peek without having to open the wallet a second time. The actions should appear normal and happen FAST!

2/ The dimensions need to be similar to the size of a standard credit card case (small)as I intend to carry it in my back pocket.

3/ Nicely crafted- something that you'd be pleased to carry without looking too 'proppy'.

4/ Angle worthy- I work mostly walk-around, so angles are always a consideration.

5/ The spectator could casually handle the wallet. If you placed it on his/her palm it wouldn't 'feel' unusual or gimmicky.

Please offer your best advice, it would be greatly appreciated!

-Jared
Message: Posted by: sbays (Jan 6, 2006 08:30PM)
I have the original black SUC, which has been one of my all time favorite, and most useful tools. I hope you can find one eventually.

I had a Caper Case, didn't really care for it. A friend of mine has the Brain Scan, but feels the SUC is much better. However, from what I am hearing about the Outlaw, it might be the way to go. Are you looking for a peek wallet ONLY? I know you can PW, NW etc with the Outlaw along with the peek. The SUC however does SO MUCh more than a peek. In fact, I don't even use it for a peek anymore. It is a beautiful tool to use with Billet work.

I have also ordered the Stealth Assassin which has the SUC gaff in it. It is also capable of doing a great deal more than a peek. Of course, the price is a bit steep compared to the others; which I don't mind if it's a worker. However, if you were to find someone willing to sell their SUC, you would most likely have to pay quite a bit for it.

Good luck!
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Jan 6, 2006 09:02PM)
Jared
Keep your eyes focused right here. The OUTLAW has just been released and it is promised to be better than the SUC. I'm sure we will see reviews starting next week.
As a dedicated SUC user (who's dog made a snack out of his favorite tool) I have one on order and will let you know how it stacks up when I get it.

Tony
Message: Posted by: Jared (Jan 6, 2006 09:26PM)
Tony and Sbays- thank you both for your comments. I called around and after hearing several arguments and ordered the Outlaw and am hoping that it's as good as the advertisement.

I'll also probably take a chance on a Stealth Assassin (you can never have enough good solutions), but would like to see it first-hand. My biggest concern is the size and whether or not it looks too 'proppy'. And lastly, I contacted Mark Strivings in hopes of finding a new old stock SUC though I'm not holding my breath. Let's keep in touch Tony- I noticed you live close by.

-Jared
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 6, 2006 10:25PM)
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On 2006-01-06 22:02, TonyEye wrote:
Jared
Keep your eyes focused right here. The OUTLAW has just been released and it is promised to be better than the SUC. I'm sure we will see reviews starting next week.
As a dedicated SUC user (who's dog made a snack out of his favorite tool) I have one on order and will let you know how it stacks up when I get it.

Tony
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First off Tony, thank you for your support. I would like to clarify something though.
Neither I nor my partner Gabe has ever claimed the Outlaw was better than the SUC.

We have said that it follows in the footsteps of the SUC. It is the same size and it allows for a closed wallet peek of almost the entire back of the card 96%?

The P.W. area is also over 90% of the back of the card.

The SUC is not readily available anywhere, we feel that the Outlaw can almost fill those shoes, and at a very reasonable price!

Thanks guys,
Rick
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Jan 6, 2006 10:45PM)
Sorry Rick, wrong choice of words. The increased writing and glimpsing area of the OUTLAW and the enthusiastic comments I have received on the OUTLAW lead me to that conclusion. Let's put it this way, It is the bargain of the year.

Tony
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 6, 2006 10:49PM)
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On 2006-01-06 23:45, TonyEye wrote:
Sorry Rick, wrong choice of words. The increased writing and glimpsing area of the OUTLAW and the enthusiastic comments I have received on the OUTLAW lead me to that conclusion. Let's put it this way, It is the bargain of the year.

Tony
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Thanks Tony!
Message: Posted by: Ola (Jan 7, 2006 12:01AM)
It will be hard to satisfy all your criterias. Your points above (1,4 & 5) are hardly compatible. SUC won't satisfy 4&5. The Stealth (or Assassin) won't satisfy 1.
You are a hard man to please.

The closest will probably be The Thought Transmitter.

My 2 cents.

Cheers

Ola
Message: Posted by: Jared (Jan 7, 2006 10:27AM)
Hi Ola,

I agree that I'm difficult to please LOL. Just another demanding magician right? Anyway, my immediate goal is to come as close as possible matching the criteria as stated above.

I have a Thought Transmitter, but don't care for it. It looks way too proppy for my taste. Plus, I'd prefer to have the spectator write on the back of a business card because it's a great excuse for handing out your card (for a keep sake). Nevetheless, thanks for adding your 2 cents.

Regards,

Jared
Message: Posted by: shomemagic (Jan 7, 2006 11:26AM)
I bought a card wallet at Walmart for $3.00 and altered it..put the business card face down and get the peek while putting it in your outer breast pocket.. Doc Hillford had a brilliant tip on this on one of his video's
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Jan 7, 2006 11:38AM)
Hi Ola,

With the Assassin you do not have to re-open the wallet & you can get a very fast peek (remember the SUC is built into it)

Peter
Message: Posted by: Ola (Jan 7, 2006 06:43PM)
Sure Peter.

My comments about the SUC was in relation to the points above. (Being that he wants something that is angle proof and can be handled by the spectator.)

I use the Assassin myself. In fact, I came up with a killer three step (revelation) routine for a themed show last night. I'm so happy with it that I will either put it up in the Assassin Forum or I might send you a video of it for feedback. You might consider it for future releases of material for the wallet.

My thoughts was just that if you have a card in the SUC gaff you can't give the wallet to a spectator to hold. (Well... I did last night but I dumped the card first).

Anyway, I'm sure most peek devises will work in most environments if routined properly. I used the SUC last night almost completely surrounded.

Cheers

Ola
Message: Posted by: zhuanan (Jan 7, 2006 08:56PM)
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On 2006-01-06 15:35, Jared wrote:
While my quest for finding an original SUC continues........ I'm trying to find a suitable peek wallet that is nearly as impressive. The considerations include: The Stealth (Assassin might be too much), Brain Scan Wallet, Caper Case, and the Outlaw.

My criteria includes:

1/ I want be able to obtain the peek without having to open the wallet a second time. The actions should appear normal and happen FAST!

2/ The dimensions need to be similar to the size of a standard credit card case (small)as I intend to carry it in my back pocket.

3/ Nicely crafted- something that you'd be pleased to carry without looking too 'proppy'.

4/ Angle worthy- I work mostly walk-around, so angles are always a consideration.

5/ The spectator could casually handle the wallet. If you placed it on his/her palm it wouldn't 'feel' unusual or gimmicky.

Please offer your best advice, it would be greatly appreciated!

-Jared

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Two words: Pimpernel Notecase
Message: Posted by: Ola (Jan 8, 2006 12:05AM)
Is the Pimpernel a peek device? It is not marketed as such.

Just curious.

Cheers

Ola
Message: Posted by: Steve Dela (Jan 8, 2006 05:25AM)
It is not marketed as such, but it should be!

It is a hip style wallet too.

I use the assasin and am enjoying it so far.

Steve Dela
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (Jan 8, 2006 06:00AM)
I would love to see the video Ola!

Regards

Peter
Message: Posted by: slydini (Jan 8, 2006 02:42PM)
I went on a bit of a wallet binge latley. The only one that I have been using, and I feel most probab;y will be using for the long run is the Stealth Assassin. It does not look "propy" at all. I use it as a regulat walett.
Message: Posted by: Vision (Jan 8, 2006 04:39PM)
Personally I would recommend the himber wallet (or my private Demonicon, but that's not available on the market). To be honest, there are so many wallets that have come out recently... seems to be the latest cool thing. SUC still stands very strong, simple and practical.
Message: Posted by: e-man (Jan 8, 2006 06:15PM)
I think the SuC is Highly over rated in the sense that you CAN miss with it.
You can NOT miss with the Caper case.
Message: Posted by: Tigerrune (Jan 18, 2006 03:58PM)
This is a super useful discussion. I'm just in the market now for a Himber wallet and I was thinking there were too many options for Himber wallets until I came here! I'm admittedly a beginner so I don't know all the acronymns in use yet, but I'll try and track down where I can learn more about the assassin.

Looking for a Himber wallet with a peek option I guess. Fit in hip pocket preferred.

-TR-
Message: Posted by: Ola (Jan 19, 2006 05:58PM)
If you want to learn more about the assassin check in here: http://www.stealthassassin.com

Cheers

Ola
Message: Posted by: teejay (Jul 8, 2007 05:54AM)
[quote]
On 2006-01-07 12:26, shomemagic wrote:
I bought a card wallet at Walmart for $3.00 and altered it..put the business card face down and get the peek while putting it in your outer breast pocket.. Doc Hillford had a brilliant tip on this on one of his video's
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Hi S (or anybody)
Can you say which video Doc has this tip on?
Cheers
TJ
Message: Posted by: rmendez (Jul 10, 2007 02:44AM)
Wow, now I'm really confused. I've been looking for a peak wallet myself for some basic mentalism but there appears to be many to choose from. I'm just looking for the smallest and most deceptive peak wallet (only) available. Can someone recommend a good one? Please email me at richard@rnt2.com Thanks!