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Topic: Ramsay cup and ball set up
Message: Posted by: bill7 (Feb 13, 2006 01:09PM)
ANy of you guys might know where I could get the John ramsaay setup? The balls he uses I think are 5/8. I think I saw Jim riser had made a set of the cups. Does he still make those or would you have special order them? Any hel at all is greatly appreciated. thanks fellas
Bill G.
usa
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 13, 2006 02:56PM)
Tim Star made the cups out of aluminum. But you can't get them any more. Ramsay used ice cream cups.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Feb 13, 2006 03:06PM)
Both Ben & Jerry's and Haagan-Dazs offer 4oz icecream containers. The small cork balls are cut from corks. The larger ones can be made from fishing weights or old tub stopper sized corks. The tomatoes come from a greengrocer (he had his own shop) and the hat coils are still made today, though you might want explore mylar coils as well.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 13, 2006 03:25PM)
JT is right... ice cream cups painted with silver paint to be exact. You can find the cork balls in fishing equipment departments. I have a set of cups that probably came from Tim Starr, but they were not really the same shape as Ramsay's, but were modified Monti cups with the top made to hold the coils as in the Ramsay routine. I had ordered these custom made years and years ago.
Message: Posted by: RiserMagic (Feb 13, 2006 04:21PM)
Bill7;
Here's my version:
http://www.jamesriser.com/Magic/JohnRamsay/Cup.html

Several sets have been requested; but will not get spun until March.

Enjoy.
Jim
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Feb 13, 2006 09:09PM)
I apologize. I didn't know you had these. Put me on the list, please.
Message: Posted by: bill7 (Feb 13, 2006 09:34PM)
VERY VEry Nice. Way cool
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Feb 13, 2006 10:02PM)
Funny, I was going to ask if James would chop his cups and offer larger balls for the second phase and perhaps chop the non-tomatoes too.
Message: Posted by: Gary Dayton (Feb 16, 2006 12:42PM)
Boy, Jim Riser's version looks wonderful. A few months ago I was lucky to get one of Mr. Riser's chop cups. After practicing nearly every day with it since, I finally felt ready and brought out the cup for the first time in a performance last week. After the routine (which was well received) and while chatting with the audience, one of the specs reached over and picked up the cup and looked it over very carefully. I was curious to see what he would do with it, and whether or not he would think it was gaffed, since I was pretty sure my execution was good. I had to laugh quietly to myself when he said, "This is such a beautiful cup -- and so heavy. I've never seen anything quite like this." After a moment or two, he concluded, "You sure don't see things made like this anymore!" (He thought it might be an antique, since I don't polish it. Of course, I didn't disabuse him of that!)

Even spectators know high quality when they see it.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Muggle (Feb 16, 2006 04:29PM)
I have not doubt that Jim's cups are well built but IMO the style of this cup is anything but attractive. I'm not familiar with the routine; are their any benefits to this cup design?
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Feb 16, 2006 04:46PM)
Yes
Message: Posted by: Mr. Muggle (Feb 16, 2006 06:46PM)
LOL! Thanks Frank
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Feb 17, 2006 03:09PM)
[quote]
On 2006-02-16 17:29, Mr. Muggle wrote:
I have not doubt that Jim's cups are well built but IMO the style of this cup is anything but attractive. I'm not familiar with the routine; are their any benefits to this cup design? [/quote]

They guy was working small and wiht "innocent" props.

Jim is working on making metal ice cream cups.

My concern is for the Bertram drop load.

And yes, I'd like mine chopped. The paper cups that is and plain cut cork balls.