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Topic: Vox Box (Magic Smith)
Message: Posted by: a.lien (Nov 25, 2002 12:38PM)
Hi!

Does anybody know the effect called Vox Box? Itīs supposed to be like this: You borrow an object from a spectator (ring, coin, etc.) and grab it with your left hand. In your right hand youīre holding a card case (Bicycle) and in just one instant, the object in your left hand disappears and is the revealed inside the card case. Apparently you can also have the card case lying on the table the whole time.
Itīs been said that there are no visible moves.

I was wondering if this effect was practical for table hopping or even on stage (with video-beamer).

Thanks for any comments, guys!

Alex
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Message: Posted by: Verno Inferno (Nov 25, 2002 03:18PM)
Gutentag!

I've never purchased Vox Box, but have seen it demonstrated. I think it can be a versatile prop, making many a thing vanish. I think it's a good tool for table hopping because it turns something you'd have with you (an empty card box) into a useful disapearing/reapearing tool. However, I think I'd crush it in my pockets over time, and that it would eventually start to look like the nasty boxes which now hold my spare Card Warp and T&R gimmicks/set-ups.

You know what, no, for the mere fact that I would find it a pain to keep in decent shape, I call it un-practical for table hopping. (If I was smart I'd get it and protect it somehow). I've seen threads by people who use it on other boards. Mixed reviews.

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Message: Posted by: a.lien (Nov 26, 2002 03:15AM)
Thanks Verno Inferno for your post. I recently ordered the prop and I wonder if itīs just a version of a regular ring flight.

I wished I saw it performed like you for better judgement, but I take your post as a good proof that itīs not a bad trick.

Thanks again!

Alex
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Message: Posted by: Paul (Nov 26, 2002 03:54AM)
I used to use Peter Kane's Ring to Card Case in my restaurant work. That was easy enough to remake when the box got battered and was probably the inspiration for Vox Box.It was in his "Sessions" booklets.

I have no doubt it is good, but the hammering it will take from a busy table hopper IS something to take into consideration. Use on stage with a video screen is a different ball game, you won't be using it over a dozen times a night.

Paul.

Paul.
Message: Posted by: longbeach (Nov 28, 2002 07:19PM)
VOX BOX is great! you can keep a deck of cards in it if you like, so it won't easily get bent out of shape!
nothing but good things to say about this.

PM if you want more details.
Message: Posted by: a.lien (Nov 29, 2002 05:54PM)
Hi Longbeach,

thanks for your post. I got the vox box yesterday and it IS indeed great and very simple!

The only thing is that right now Iīm looking for another way to vanish an object out of my one hand instead the "classic false pass and palming" before having it reappear out of the box. Iīm sure itīs perfect for laymen itīs just that most of my friends know this typical basic move of magicians to vanish objects in your hand and I just wanna surprise them.

In other words: Iīve been looking for a move, where the spectators can actually see me THROWING a coin into my hand instead of pretending to LAY it there, close my hand and suddenly itīs gone..!

I must admit, that eventhough I always used to do certain close up magic Iīm normally performing illusions and thatīs why I never had the need to learn a lot of slight of hand. Donīt get me wrong, Iīm not one of those illusionists, that have two left hands and there are quite a few slights I can do pretty well but ironically, the moves to vanish a small object like a coin or so is either to do a palming or using the raven.

Do you have any idea how I can grab an object with my left hand without having to pass it from one hand to another and yet to vanish it in the very same hand? Something like John Cornelius "Vanishing Nickle", only more simple and practical..?

Of course, it can only be a coin that can be substituted by another one and not a boroughed ring.

Any ideas?
Iīd appreciate any comments..!

Thanks,
Alex.

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Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Dec 1, 2002 07:40PM)
There is a plastic card box for $30.00. It is the vox box. But it is called the, 'Lighting card case'

It will last a long time!


Ray Noble
Message: Posted by: longbeach (Dec 3, 2002 02:45AM)
A.lien- interesting question.

The best way would probably be to backpalm the coin/ring clipped diagonally between the pinky and ring finger. So it is placed in the hand, hand is closed, regripped in backpalm, opened to show hand is empty, then call attention instantly to the rattle in the box.

Then I suppose you could use the Raven for a really clean vanish and reproduce an identical coin (probably not a ring) from somewhere else.

Or use VOX BOX in conjuction with a ring flight system, so the ring flight could do all the vanishing for you, "reproduce" the coin in the box, wave your hand over it, and it is found cleanly in that strange key case most ring flights use.

I'd go for the backpalm idea.
Message: Posted by: Rich B. (Dec 3, 2002 09:06AM)
Alex, I perform with my sleeves rolled up. But prior to me doing this, I used to sleeve some objects for a complete vanish. If sleeved correctly, this can look very magical. It is also very easy to retrieve the object for loading elsewhere.
Check Carl Cloutier's material for sleeving.
Rich B.
Message: Posted by: a.lien (Dec 3, 2002 09:46AM)
Thank you everybody for all your remarks and advice!
I think Iīll try the sleeving method as I used to do this before and completely had forgotten about this pretty easy and clean method.
Also, the Raven is pretty cool for laymen audience. It looks very magical, but you canīt have the coin marked before. But I believe the effect itself makes up for that and the audience will always be blown after watching it!

Thanks guys for all your help!
A.lien
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Message: Posted by: ixnay66 (Dec 5, 2002 09:44AM)
Magic Smith also carries plastic Bicycle Card Boxes. They look exactly like the regular boxes (red or blue) but are made of plastic and they won't get beat up like the paper boxes. While I haven't seen the insides of the Vox Box, I don't doubt you can make one with the plastic case.
Cheers,
Chris
Message: Posted by: Ropefiend (Dec 14, 2002 11:18AM)
The plastic Vox Box I bought was only good for about a dozen performances. Opening and closing the case caused the flap to break off. Plastic is actually more fragile than cardboard and begins to weaken with each repeated use. MagicSmith agreed with this and graciously replaced the plastic case with the cardboard case. Of course, they could have improved the construction by now, but that was my experience a year ago. I now use the cardboard version which is agreat prop
Message: Posted by: yoey2000 (Dec 20, 2002 11:08AM)
When I first read the trick I was amazed. But when I saw the video, I knew how it was done. It's a good thing I saw the video or would have dished out 20 bucks for something I misread.

"Appear in your card case"

????????? :mad:
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Dec 21, 2002 01:54AM)
A.Lien. Sounds like you need to learn the toss vanish!

I suspect I'll be getting this for Christmas--I'll post my opinion of it if I do.
Message: Posted by: Spydur (Dec 22, 2002 11:50AM)
a.lien,

If you are using the raven you could always place a sticker on the coin before they mark it. This way you can remove it later.

Corey B.
Message: Posted by: metaphyzix (Dec 23, 2002 01:59AM)
a.lien, I'm sure you can do a striking vanish instead of the false transfer.
Message: Posted by: yoey2000 (Dec 24, 2002 09:51AM)
This effect doesn't seem worth it for the money it costs. Basically you're doing all the work for it to do one thing which I think someone could make at home.
Message: Posted by: Andrew E. Miller (Dec 25, 2002 01:31PM)
It is a really great effect! Affordable too! It will work with any small object and you can store your cards in the box and use it as an ordinary card box, too. Oh, and did I say examinable? Always trust Magicsmith. I have used mine every day since I got it and it has not shown any sign of wear or tear. So, you can call it a long lasting prop too! Go get it!
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Message: Posted by: S.Segal (Dec 25, 2002 01:58PM)
I've seen Eric Anderson make a rattle card box for just Pennies, IMHO better than the VoxBox. It may be similar to Peter Kane's Ring to CardCase (as mentioned in an earlier post). If it is, I recommend finding the booklet "Sessions" and preparing your own box.
Message: Posted by: Bill (Dec 25, 2002 02:34PM)
I use it with a Devil's handkerchief. The spectator is holding the ring up until the last minute and vanishes in their hands. Also you can show the Vox Box empty and if you're careful even shake it to show nothing is in it. Then Presto. It's a great effect. :dancing:
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Dec 25, 2002 05:01PM)
I have the Kane book, and I got Vox Box for Christmas. IMO, the extra feature of the VB makes it worthwhile. I highly recommend it!
Message: Posted by: Tivoli (Dec 26, 2002 07:13AM)
Hi folks
To make something disappear I use my "simplex card to box..."
I can load or download any kind of things that I can put in.
I also use it to do the classic "card to box" .
see ya
arthur
Message: Posted by: espmagic (Dec 28, 2002 12:18AM)
As how to make it vanish: check out Michael Close's vanish of the salt shaker top in his Card, Forehead and Saltshaker routine - you'll never do anything else again!

Lee