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Topic: Help! What happens when you run out of tricks?
Message: Posted by: danielhunley (Nov 28, 2002 11:21PM)
Here's the scenario.

You are out on a street with a large group right in front of you and you run out of tricks. The people who first began watching are still watching and you don't know what else to do. They ask for more, but you don't have it. How do get out of a situation like that with a little comedic twist?
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Nov 29, 2002 05:39AM)
Are you performing a set show, as in busking? If you are doing a set show, you should have routined it so that there is a beginning, a middle, and a logical closing. If you are not doing a set show, you should do the same!

"Impromptu" magic actually isn't! It's very carefully scripted to only APPEAR to be impromptu.

So-called "jazz" magic is like the musical variety: The rules have to be second nature to you before you can break them.

The problem seems to be that, although you are thinking ahead in each, individual trick, you are not thinking ahead in the whole show (and it IS a show, done in a theatre for a thousand or over coffee for one).
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Dec 6, 2002 10:22AM)
I do a lot of "body" magic. Check out a book called "Totally useless skills"...there's a trick in there where you have to intertwine your fingers on your face..it's a sucker trick...I'll say, "If you liked the magic show, I'd like you to smile but I'd like you to do it in a very special way" and then go into the trick...it's one I teach them too. It's a closer.
Message: Posted by: JSMagic (Dec 15, 2002 08:39PM)
If all else fails, you could do the twisting arm illusion. Requires not much skill and gets a volunteer to help... Plus it requires no props but yourself! Josh
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Dec 16, 2002 07:14AM)
I agree with Peter. You should be performing more than just one trick after another, --you should be performing a show with structure, and the sum should be greater than the parts.

Further, an effective street performer has to know how to get people to move on, making room for the next crowd.
Message: Posted by: suspectacts (Dec 16, 2002 04:01PM)
Daniel -
Based on your post, I'm going to guess that your frustration is one experienced by a lot of beginner buskers: You use your A material right away and this gets you a good crowd but by the time you have the crowd, you have no material.

Structure the show, so you hold back a couple of your killer effects until you have the crowd you want. Then do your B material to get the crowd you want. Also, save one thing that you only do if you need an encore. It's something that you don't want to have to perform every set, but that you know kills. I actually use the Invisable deck this way. I don't keep in my regular rep, because I'm kind of bored with it after all these years, but in a pinch it's a great encore.

Best of luck.

Peter
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Feb 5, 2004 07:25PM)
RUN
But don't forget your hat.
:magician:
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 9, 2004 11:40PM)
[quote]
On 2002-11-29 00:21, danielhunley wrote:
Here's the scenario.

You are out on a street with a large group right in front of you and you run out of tricks. The people who first began watching are still watching and you don't know what else to do. They ask for more, but you don't have it. How do get out of a situation like that with a little comedic twist?
[/quote]

You have just learned several things.

First, you must have a "set" show, with an opener, a middle segment and a closer.

Use the opener to gather a crowd. Use the middle segment to get them to love you.

Then announce that you are going to do your big finish, and afterwards you are going to pass your hat. Do the big finish. Pass the hat. Let the crowd leave.

Then repeat the above.
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Mar 10, 2004 03:23AM)
Learn how to create a crowd without doing magic tricks to get the crowd. this is difficult in the beginning. but when you have a crowd almost haf way through your show you get paid for half the show.

1= set up things as you table
2= talk to the people that you are going to provide them with some fun by doing a magic show. don't try to be funny just communicate with them. this way you show confidence and they get curious to see what you will be doing.
3= a classic / chalk a line on the street to make a circle or put a rope in a circle. ask the people to come up to the line. this way they know their space and they know your space. actually you get the audience together in a group.

HAVE FUN
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 10, 2004 08:30PM)
A: learn more tricks
B: learn to dance funny
C: go home and cry
:kermit:
Message: Posted by: drwilson (Mar 11, 2004 08:25AM)
You can draw a crowd (Act One) by doing almost nothing. That's right! Dare to do nothing! If you do it in a focused way, you will draw a crowd.

In "Step Right Up" by Brooks McNamara, there is a tale of a pitchman who would spend twenty minutes on a corner arranging a Bible, a coil of rope, and a human skull. Once he had a crowd, he would go into his pitch, never once handling or mentioning the rope, Bible, or skull.

Act Two, as discussed above, is getting people to like you while letting them know that you are going to ask for money. Act Three, as discussed above, is the big finish and passing the hat.

Yours,

Paul
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Mar 11, 2004 09:18AM)
Dan,

You are suffering from what I like to call “premature show time”. You are going into your A material too soon. The only cure for this is to slow down.

I will say it again because it is the most important thing,
the most important thing,
the most important thing.

You need to slow down.

You should not do anything other than calling attention to yourself until you have the first five. When you have the first two you need to keep them entertained and interested with anything other than your show.

Tell them a joke, twist them a balloon, show them a card trick, paint them a picture, or sing them a song but do not start your show.

When you have the first five you can start your show but the first trick should be a crowd builder. It should be something that takes enough time to build a larger crowd. It does not have to be much of a magic trick but it does have to be an entertaining crowd pleaser.

Before you reach the climax of this first trick you need to be able to do two things. Number one you need to take a quick head count. This is important because this is about how many people are going to tip. This is the money tip right here that you are looking at. Number Two If you do not have a satisfactory headcount you need to build more bodies BEFORE you climax this first trick.

A guaranteed lock on making this moment available to you during this first trick is to build in a pause just before the climax. The easy way to do this is to use a trick that this last climax will be entertaining to people who walk in at this point, the point just before the climax.

In my show I do a silk vanish and a color change that I learned from Cellini’s book “The Royal Touch”.

I vanish the silk twice according to the printed routine but just before the color change I have built in a pause. My arms drop to my sides and I ask the audience, “Are you ready to see this?” As I ask them that I make my head count. If the number is low no matter what their response is I say, “I can’t hear you are you ready to see this?”. This gets the audience to scream and getting the audience to scream will draw the attention of the people passing buy. As they scream I am looking OVER the audiences heads to the people passing by. I am looking for a group that is now looking in my general direction and I start to holler to them, “Hey, I don’t know if these people are ready to see this. Why don’t you guys/girls/guys and girls come over here and help me out. I may also toss out a funny line to them and try and engage them. I will do this until I have the proper number. When that moment has been reached I make the color change. It is visual and quick and everybody in the audience no mater when they came into the trick got to see some magic.

This is why the vanishing silk, this hoary standard is one of the best openers for a street act. It has three magical moments in it. It gives you three chances to build a crowd. The rest is up to you.

At this point you should be sitting pretty because your crowd is big enough to build a crowd. By the time you do your finale your crowd will more than likely be double the size it is at the moment you end that first trick. On average half the audience standing at the finish of the last trick will pay.

That is how you make the hat.

You should never find yourself in the position (and believe me, we ALL found ourselves in this position till we figured it out) of having a huge crowd walk over thirty seconds before your show ended.

The good news is once you have developed this technique your audience will be so big that even if a group does walk over just before you hat they will be at the back and not be able to see most of what you just did.

These people will stay for your next show and if your show requires no reset you can draw them in as your first five.

I’m sorry that this is so long but this is the hardest part and the meat and two veg of what you are trying to do. The tricks you do? No mater how delicate and knuckle busting the sleight of hand might be it is nothing when compared to the ability of controlling and maintaining a fluid audience.

These are people that walk over and can walk away at any second. No other performing venue is such that your direct and immediate paycheck (hat) depends entirely on your ability to make them stay and make them pay.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Oz Fan (Mar 11, 2004 04:38PM)
Say Something like dude look it's George Bush then Run make sure to grab your hat full of tips.
Message: Posted by: Doug Conn (Mar 11, 2004 05:27PM)
There's some GREAT tips in this thread (the last post by Danny Hustle is really good.) You'd do well to head much of the above advice.

No-one has mentioned that it's possible to do a street act without a 'formal' structure. You don't have to have a 'begining, middle and end.' If you have a large repetoire (at least 30 minutes of strong material, that resets instantly) then you can just stand there and keep pumping out the magic... leave a hat out and folks will drop cash in it. After you finish your 30 minute set, tell the folks in the front to beat it and the ones in the back to move in...

rinse repeat

you wont make as much $$$ as you would with a formal show, but it's an option (an option that can be helpful when you run into situations where you're having trouble finding a spot for a formal show.)

Regarding your question:

How do you get out of a situation like that with a little comedic twist?

Say something like:

"that's all for now... Go get a drink & come back later to watch it again.... The more you drink the more amazing it will be! ! Go ahead, I'll wait here..."
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Mar 11, 2004 07:12PM)
Doug, good to hear from you. I'm coming to town next week. Come and see me, ok?

I have done what doug has said many times. Work it over and over, but the effects must be instant reset. No bill to lemons, see what I'm saying.

koz
Message: Posted by: AJMagicman (Mar 24, 2004 09:14PM)
Yeah...
You Know what? This is what you can do, before your last trick,announce to the crowd that "YOU" are about to do your last trick, then do the trick,and before the crowd start to leave, pass your hat around for "donations". ($$$) :)
Message: Posted by: Catmouth (Apr 13, 2004 11:31PM)
Nice post. Thanks for the huge post Danny Hustle. Great input from everyone.
Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Apr 14, 2004 04:12AM)
[quote]
On 2004-03-10 00:40, Bill Palmer wrote:
You have just learned several things.

First, you must have a "set" show, with an opener, a middle segment and a closer.

Use the opener to gather a crowd. Use the middle segment to get them to love you.

Then announce that you are going to do your big finish, and afterwards you are going to pass your hat. Do the big finish. Pass the hat. Let the crowd leave.

Then repeat the above.
[/quote]
Agreed. If then you have a few insistent stragglers hanging around let them know you will be doing an encore performance of "passing the hat."
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Jun 20, 2012 10:14PM)
Just trudging through some of the older post as I reflect on what
I'm doing in the pitch.

Danny and Doug Conn has some really priceless gems that totally
make sense; especially, when you have been out there.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Jun 21, 2012 02:48PM)
Here's a priceless gem that ALL of the above failed to mention.

We are supposed to leave them wanting more!
[i]Our audiences will NEVER be satiated, for mystery is without a finishline![/i]~Devious 6/21/2012
Message: Posted by: ringmaster (Jun 21, 2012 07:55PM)
HAT'UM.
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jun 22, 2012 05:27AM)
Mr. Hunley, Listen to Kozmo & Danny Hustle. They both have been full time buskers a long time now and support thier families very well. Listen to those 2 and youi will be successful. If you get a chance work with either one or go to a boot camp with Kozmo ore Gazzo and Bobby Maverick. The camps last 3 days and when you're done you'll be surprized how much you are making after the boot camp. I will change your life
Message: Posted by: EVILDAN (Jun 22, 2012 07:50AM)
One suggestion that I can offer is once you have your edge established, tell them what you're about to do.

For example, my wife and I have 3 pieces in our street act, and some of this can vary from time to time.
This isn't our act, but will give you an idea of what we say.

Ladies and gentleman we're just about to start our show. Colleen will start off by displaying her amazing juggling skills. Next I will show you what is known as the world's greatest card trick. And for our grand finale I am going to blindfold Colleen and she will attempt to read your minds.

What this does is set a timeline into the people's heads. Some of the people that stopped to see you didn't plan on stopping to see you. Those people may have an agenda and a schedule that they have to keep. By knowing what you plan to do, they can plan to stay for a while, stay for the whole show, or just leave. This also allows you to "sell the sizzle." If you have a good closer you can whet their appetite with the sizzle about what your final piece will be. Something that will make them WANT to stay until the end.

When we have the performing space, we also put out a 5 gal bucket and say something to the effect, "We know that some of you won't be able to stay for the whole show. But if you have to leave and enjoyed what you saw, please feel free to drop some money in the bucket before you go." This was a tip a friend of ours gave us. She came out to see us, saw that some people had to go, had money in their hands to tip us, but no place to put the cash. They pocketed it and left.
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Jun 22, 2012 09:13AM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-22 08:50, EVILDAN wrote:
When we have the performing space, we also put out a 5 gal bucket and say something to the effect, "We know that some of you won't be able to stay for the whole show. But if you have to leave and enjoyed what you saw, please feel free to drop some money in the bucket before you go." This was a tip a friend of ours gave us. She came out to see us, saw that some people had to go, had money in their hands to tip us, but no place to put the cash. They pocketed it and left.
[/quote]

Great stuff, EvilDan....I do the same thing once I have my five. I usually
stop my first one or two, but when I have an edge, I start announcing what
I am going to do...just as you noted above. It helps as you noted. Sometimes,
I throw in a reminder; one left two go...(I learned this from Mario).

I also ran into the situation; especially, in the fast pace area I work in...
Chris Capehart mentioned this to me...as I too kept having some people walk
in the middle of the show and hand me money....it kinda disrupts the show.
It's easier and implied when you have some receptacle for them to drop it
in...then you can give them nod or thank you...without having to really
stop what your doing....

The reason a dug up this post was for additonal comments like this...this
is good stuff that workers are actually doing on the streets.
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 22, 2012 11:27AM)
The fact is that most folks don't plan to see a street show to begin with.
The trickle hat out or a bucket out front is a bad idea (unless you're working a trickle show). There are many reasons but I will say that one is because once one person throws a frog in the bucket and walks there will be more "pay their way out"...Then because youre making a little bit of money off the walkers, you wont realize that the most important thing you're missing is the ability to get them to WANT to stay. It takes work and time. Do your show over and over again. Learn from your audience. Watch them and listen to them. The fellas that said structure your show with a beginning middle and end are right. The only thing is you have to know what those effects are. The only way to find out is by doing it and analyzing the outcomes.

Then again, I see so many terrible performers giving advice and selling garbage that they are poster children for the "don't work hard, just use a gimmick" mentality. Instead of learning how to actually build a crowd and learn the skillset of being a good performer they resort to gimmicks(i.e. the balloon swallow, fire, etc. etc.) to build a half-ass crowd. This is crap. There is no skillset here. Its crap. They would rather not learn how to actually build a crowd. Unfortunately, they wanna be famous or known or whatever, and they don't care what the cost is. Too bad for they poor guys buying their drivel that the price is being paid by them not the fella releasing the garbage.

Just my opinion,

Best,

Bobby
Message: Posted by: Devious (Jun 22, 2012 12:47PM)
I get so many folks that come to my performance area, who mock the balloon swallowing magician.
Questions about his sexual preference is the number one comment that I hear.

[b]They aren't laughing with you, they are laughing at you![/b]

[b]NEWSFLASH[/b]
Balloon swallowing is NOT magic!

I have one question for you?
[i]Do You Swallow?[/i]
Message: Posted by: AndyLuka (Jun 22, 2012 01:28PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-22 13:47, Devious wrote:
I get so many folks that come to my performance area, who mock the balloon swallowing magician.
Questions about his sexual preference is the number one comment that I hear.

[b]They aren't laughing with you, they are laughing at you![/b]

[b]NEWSFLASH[/b]
Balloon swallowing is NOT magic!

I have one question for you?
[i]Do You Swallow?[/i]
[/quote]

As I have said in a different post, I will be busking at Summerfest, the world’s largest Music festival next week. However, two weeks ago at the same park was Milwaukee's annual Pride Fest. With me being straight, but very open to the LGBT community, I considered trying to get hired to busk Pride fest as well, and Balloon swallowing would have been my closing act. I have a feeling I would had made a fortune if I followed through with the idea... maybe next year :)
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Jun 22, 2012 05:35PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-22 12:27, Bobby Maverick wrote:
There are many reasons but I will say that one is because once one person throws a frog
in the bucket and walks there will be more "pay their way out"...
[/quote]
Good point!!! My bag happens to be there as it is the bag that holds the props.
It also occured to me that it's a great recepticle for those "paying their way out...".

Anything you do to handle those that want to give you money in the middle of your show
and gots to go?
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 22, 2012 11:34PM)
I always have a tip jar out, and I've never had others "pay their way out" after someone drops a tip ... on the contrary, when someone puts something in the jar it gives me the opp to thank them and call the crowd's attention to the jar which certainly helps.

Another thing I've been known to do on occasion is a money trick, and then drop the bill into the jar - a subtle soft hat line in itself.

I like how Sony Holiday does it - he wears one hat, and has another on the ground. I consider him to be one one of the few "real magicians" working the sidewalks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gql_lSoDPg



-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Jun 23, 2012 12:56AM)
I'm like JoeJoe; the bucket's always out. I keep my wand there, for the same reasons.
Subtle reminders never hurt.
Message: Posted by: EVILDAN (Jun 23, 2012 08:39AM)
I've never found keeping a bucket out to hurt the final hat at the end. If nothing else, by thanking the tippers that have to leave, it reminds the rest of the crowd that you're doing this for money and we sometimes add, "Don't worry, there will be plenty of time to add yours at the end of the show."
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Jun 23, 2012 01:44PM)
If you don't have structure you don't have a show.
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 26, 2012 11:18AM)
Well said Rotten.


Okay, try this exercise. Remove the bucket or the hat or whatever you have out the entire time. Do your show. If you make less its probably because you're lacking in a specific area, the part where you keep an audience...seems important to me, but maybe I'm wrong.

Then again, if you have only had success doing it one way and never tried the other it would be hard for me to convince ya otherwise wouldnt it?

Contrary to some folks beliefs, its about becoming better performers. The money just gets better once you have gotten better at performing.

To save some of the thin skinned replies I'm sure I will receive, I'm NOT telling any of you guys you are bad performers. I'm just saying that relying upon an open tip receptacle for the folks that wanna leave early is a good way to dull a very needed skill in street entertaining. The ability to KEEP a crowd.

If anyone wants me to show them what I mean, I would happy to come and do it. All I need is the where abouts of your pitch....LOL!!!!!


that's a joke, don't go broadcasting your pitch. You will end up with knuckleheads all over ya.
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 26, 2012 12:06PM)
I see a lot of structure in that clip of Sonny Holiday. Your entire perception of this is based on your misguided belief that the only reason to have a tip jar out would be to get money from people that want to leave early ... which is where you are wrong.

By having a tip jar out, I don't have to deal with money till the end of the night. No counting it between shows, no figuring out where to stash it, no worrying about it blowing away in the strong ocean breeze I work in. Makes my life easier in a multiple of ways.

And it works to my advantage psychologically ... ABC rule of sales ... Always Be Closing.

-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: Magician Shaun (Jun 26, 2012 02:48PM)
I think that having a tip jar out would give me one more thing to worry about while performing, distracting me from the show. Perfect example. A few weeks ago I was in the mall with my wife. She wanted some coffee so we stopped at the Starbucks. The coffee girl had a tip jar out. It had change and plenty of ones in it. This is in the middle of a Shopping mall with cameras and security and police about and it is enclosed. This guy walks up to the counter while she is helping another guest and we are in line. He snatches the tip jar and runs away. He got away clean with all the girls tips, while she was distracted handing someone a cup of coffee.

Now, I can only imagine how easy it would be for someone hard up to get away with a tip jar full of a days worth of money on an open street while the mage was distracted delivering bits of patter and doing complicated sleight of hand. I just don't want to have to keep one eye on my tip jar and the other focused on the performance. Heck, last week I was doing a PK style effect with a little plastic ball to stop people. I had a group stop and as I went into my show I pulled the thread free and stuck the tack to the tree behind me. I performed my show and when this group left without tipping I found my ball was missing. I searched for it and it was gone. Now, if my tip jar was sitting there I can only imagine what else may have walked away.

For me hatting at the end and dumping the money into my case (similar to yours JoeJoe, with locks, that is bike locked to a tree or lamp post) means that I don't have to worry about it. I would notice someone smashing my case or trying to cut the cable with bolt cutters....
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 26, 2012 04:00PM)
Your experience is limited to only what you know and where you work.

I can say without a doubt that I am right on this.

There s a difference between closing and settling.
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 26, 2012 10:37PM)
And your experience is limited as well - and you don't know everything.

Just because I have a hat out during my show does not mean I am "settling" for anything.

Give it a rest already - you have stated your opinion and everyone heard you; they can decide for themselves what they want to do.

-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Jun 26, 2012 11:55PM)
When I first tried busking and was scared I had a tip bucket. After I got rid of it I had one person ask during the show where to leave a tip. I said with the waitress. That happened during the first month of me ridding my show of the trout line. Since then no one has interrupted to ask anything. Oh, wait. Why can't we discuss this?
Message: Posted by: Faulkner (Jun 27, 2012 12:53PM)
There are cities I have worked I wouldn't leave a bucket out for any reason...that thing will be gone in a short time, other areas I could use one but why...It is something else to lug around and I want to travel with less, not more.
I'm not saying the jar is a bad thing where some of you are working, but there are places it is a very bad idea. I also agree that if you have a tight show I doubt you would miss it.
JoJo, not arguing with you but I know for a fact that Sonny does not use a hat out for tips all of the time, he picks his locations and often works without one.

On the pitch money goes in my pocket, not out.
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Jun 27, 2012 02:35PM)
I never said you had to put a tip jar out so I don't see how your comments are in disagreement with what I've said, that being that people should choose for themselves what they think would work best for them.

All I've done is point out the pro's to having a tip jar out; every side has pro's and con's and this notion that there is one way and only one way to street perform is just asinine.

And if I was in an area where I was worried it would be stolen ... then I would move to a better neighborhood.



-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: AndyLuka (Jun 27, 2012 03:45PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-27 15:35, JoeJoe wrote:
And if I was in an area where I was worried it would be stolen ... then I would move to a better neighborhood.
[/quote]

You would think this is common knowledge. It's like looking both ways before you cross the street. I guess some people just need to learn the hard way. I sure after they lose a few hats they will figure it out. Then again who knows...
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Jun 27, 2012 04:04PM)
Have you ever thrown a party and after the first person had to leave it became a trend until it was just you and the weirdoes?

I'm sorry for breaking my word Mr. G. I was silent for almost year and then I got bored. I'll duck and run now that my schedule is full.
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 28, 2012 12:45PM)
Leave it alone Rotten...you cant lead a horse to water but you cant make them do algebra.
Message: Posted by: Bobby Maverick (Jun 28, 2012 12:46PM)
Oops, I meant "can lead"
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Jun 28, 2012 02:54PM)
What about put one captain's hat for tips next to a our lady of Fátima's...
Message: Posted by: Devious (Jun 28, 2012 04:45PM)
[quote]
On 2012-06-28 13:45, Bobby Maverick wrote:
Leave it alone Rotten...you cant lead a horse to water but you cant make them do algebra.
[/quote]
So, would you say that your experience is limited as to Horses or Mathematics?
Message: Posted by: solrak29 (Jun 29, 2012 12:37AM)
Despite the derogatory yet sometimes entertaining comments; this
is what I gathered....

It's really a matter of personal preference.

I found that the danger of leaving the bag out is turning into
a one trick pony. But that's on my pitch. And maybe you don't
mind doing a trickle type of show. You do a routine they drop
a dollar and move on; you do a routine...its ok.

But hey, if you wanted to do a proper show. You really have to
manage the fact of having a bucket there. Gather your crowd,
announce what you gona do and kick off a show. Leaving the bucket
out can get in the way; as your done one effect they drop a dollar
and try to move on. if you don't manage that; that is. But your pitch
may be different. On mines; it has to be managed.

In the end, every person, every pitch is different; but do not
close your mind; experiment and be free; change is good....
Message: Posted by: EVILDAN (Jun 29, 2012 08:09AM)
For the record, we don't have a tip bucket out all the time.
There is one pitch we work that we found it beneficial to do that due to the transient nature of the crowd. Most of the crowd stays for the whole show, but some leave and some that leave put in money before they go.
On other pitches, the bucket would just get in our way, so we just hat them at the end.

Just like solrak29 noted, every pitch is different.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 29, 2012 11:24AM)
It's rare that someone puts something in my bucket during the show. (When they do, they get a quick "thank you" during the trick.) It's usually right after the Shackle escape that those who are going to tip reach into their wallets. Mind you, since I do a sidewalk show on a narrow sidewalk and my usual audience is about 4-8 people per show, my hats are a lot smaller than yours out there.