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Topic: Very Nice Cups
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Apr 14, 2006 12:33AM)
Go to this site and check out the engraved cups!

Absolutely beautiful.

http://www.sherwoodmagic.com/
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Apr 14, 2006 12:35AM)
Those are very nice.
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Apr 14, 2006 12:44AM)
They are a work of art.

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Apr 14, 2006 01:05AM)
Oh man...I've never seen these before, my gawd the pinnachle of all...oh wait these are the sherwood cups. I was expecting some hype...

johnny
Message: Posted by: swtrocks (Apr 14, 2006 01:18AM)
I wish I had the thousand or so to get a set of engraved ones, but for now I will have to settle for my Paul Foxes.

Steven
Message: Posted by: stevenamills (Apr 14, 2006 09:35AM)
Not that it matters, but if everything was priced the same and had the same value, I would buy the smooth silver. I, personally, find the engraving distracting.

I couldn't afford the smooth silver either, so settled fot the smooth brass. They are beautiful cups.

sam
Message: Posted by: ChristianR (Apr 14, 2006 10:01AM)
Is s/he a Christian religous performer or is he a illusionist named Christian?

My favourite cups are the Sterling Silver with Gold Plate. Imagine these smooth silver and gold plate.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 14, 2006 10:32AM)
Sherwood Cups!!! WOW!!! Those are really pretty.

Why hasn't anyone told me about these cups before?

;)
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Apr 14, 2006 11:04AM)
You guys having a good time with this young man?
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Apr 14, 2006 11:08AM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 11:01, ChristianR wrote:
Is s/he a Christian religous performer or is he a illusionist named Christian?

My favourite cups are the Sterling Silver with Gold Plate. Imagine these smooth silver and gold plate.
[/quote]

Christian Performer.

My name is Kyle. I chose this name before I read the preference for real names to be used.
Message: Posted by: Christian Illusionist (Apr 14, 2006 11:10AM)
BTW, I realize that for many the cups will probably be old news (such has been brought to my attention).

I'm very new to this board and am just now realizing how many truly professional magicians there are connected with this site.

Sorry for this useless thread. I'll try to use a little more wisdom before posting a topic again.

However, maybe there was one or two that didn't know about them and so it was not all in vain :)
Message: Posted by: doublelift (Apr 14, 2006 11:34AM)
What kind of wood is Sher Wood? It seems to make some nice cups with ths faux metal finish. Are Fox cups made using real foxes? Perhaps that is why they aren't made anymore. Animal rights......? :)
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Apr 14, 2006 12:01PM)
I guess you guys ain't done with the poor lad yet, huh?

At least ya'll are being gentle about it.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 14, 2006 12:05PM)
Okay, guys, back off. He was just trying to be helpful. He probably thought this board was one of those boards for people who hadn't been around the block. If I didn't have all 8 sets of the Sherwoods, I probably wouldn't have needled him.

Christopher -- please accept my personal invitation to drop by the cups and balls museum. http://www.cupsandballsmuseum.com

Bring a lunch and something to drink. You will be there for a LOOOOONG time!

And welcome to our little magical nuthouse!

to "doublelift" -- No live foxes were harmed in any way during the production of any of the Paul Fox cups I have on the web site.
Message: Posted by: Gary Dayton (Apr 14, 2006 12:55PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 12:34, doublelift wrote:
Are Fox cups made using real foxes? Perhaps that is why they aren't made anymore. Animal rights......? :)
[/quote]

If you're worried about those poor, innocent foxes, maybe you'd want to consider the Phoenix cups as an alternative. They raise birds from the dead ........ Very PC. :) :)
Message: Posted by: rikbrooks (Apr 14, 2006 05:12PM)
[quote]
If you're worried about those poor, innocent foxes, maybe you'd want to consider the Phoenix cups as an alternative. They raise birds from the dead ........ Very PC. :) :)
[/quote]

(sigh) I just love you guys.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Apr 14, 2006 05:54PM)
I wonder what kind of Animals my cups were made of? Gary never really said. Probably a good thing I don't know.
Message: Posted by: Gary Dayton (Apr 14, 2006 07:19PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 18:54, Dave VanVranken wrote:
I wonder what kind of Animals my cups were made of? Gary never really said. Probably a good thing I don't know.
[/quote]

Dave,
If you had Gazzo cups, you'd really be in a pickle! At least you know your cups were made out of some kind of animal. I mean, what's a Gazzo?!! :) :)
Message: Posted by: Gary Dayton (Apr 14, 2006 07:34PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 12:10, Christian Illusionist wrote:

Sorry for this useless thread. I'll try to use a little more wisdom before posting a topic again.

[/quote]

Hey Kyle,

It's great to see your enthusiasm. Don't be concerned about silly comments, especially mine! I hadn't looked at those cups for a while, and your posting the link reminded me of those beauties again. It was fun looking at them. Fortunately for me, I'm not too envious of those who have these wonderful cups as I just use the chop cup and don't do a full C&B routine.

Are you working on a C&B routine, just starting, or have one polished? Many of the guys who posted here and on other threads in this section are true experts in the C&B. The nice thing about them, too, is that they are even more forthcoming with help than they are with the jokes. Don't hesitate to ask.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Apr 14, 2006 07:37PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 20:19, Gary Dayton wrote:
what's a Gazzo?!! :) :)
[/quote]

Isn't that one of those annoying noise makers?
Message: Posted by: Josh Riel (Apr 14, 2006 07:56PM)
LAY OFF OF GAZZO! he is the epitome of everything condemned by the general populous of this forum and is lauded for it. I myself love his horribly wrong and incorrect style of performance.

Aside from that statement, I love those cups and would sell a child (Wait till I have on I don't love as much as the others) for a set. I look to the Sherwood site whenever I feel the need for masochism. Also I look to Mr. Palmer's museum when I want to go crazy with lust. I have to beg my wife incessantly for a set of any Sherwood's, I say: "As the man of the house I order you to give me permission to buy those cups", hasn't worked so far.
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Apr 14, 2006 09:08PM)
My Foxy cups are real babes!

(I think the last time I heard a pretty girl referred to as a "fox" was in 1979.)
Message: Posted by: James Kernen (Apr 14, 2006 09:20PM)
The cups don't matter though I like certain ones better.... You use the ones you have and you do with what you can, and then you have favorites. Just like everything else in life. Some of them are prettier than others and some of them just get the job done. If you are lucky, they are both pretty and purposeful..... these are my Sherwoods....
Message: Posted by: geemack (Apr 14, 2006 09:29PM)
[quote][i]On 2006-04-14 22:08, Chessmann wrote...[/i]

My Foxy cups are real babes!

(I think the last time I heard a pretty girl referred to as a "fox" was in 1979.)[/quote]
And my Babe Cups are real foxes! ;)
Message: Posted by: doublelift (Apr 15, 2006 05:45PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 13:55, Gary Dayton wrote:
[quote]
On 2006-04-14 12:34, doublelift wrote:
Are Fox cups made using real foxes? Perhaps that is why they aren't made anymore. Animal rights......? :)
[/quote]

If you're worried about those poor, innocent foxes, maybe you'd want to consider the Phoenix cups as an alternative. They raise birds from the dead ........ Very PC. :) :)
[/quote]
My Phoenix cups still look pretty dead. Maybe the Fox cups got into the "coup" they come in................
Message: Posted by: kregg (Apr 15, 2006 06:16PM)
I liked them in silver so much, I also picked up a set in gold. The bad thing is... they are so nice, I'm afraid to use them.
Message: Posted by: kregg (Apr 15, 2006 06:40PM)
Bill Palmer's museum... WOW!!!
What a fantastic collection.
Message: Posted by: garyanimal (Jun 18, 2006 10:21AM)
I'll be back in the cup biz next year. I'm going to redesign all my cups and start again with some new Kiwi stamp in them to mark my move to NZ.
Gazzo cups should be available via penguin soon. My other designs will not be.
Animal
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 18, 2006 11:44AM)
Gary,
I'm glad you're still around! What's this I hear about you returning to the U.K.? Or was that just for a visit?

I'll be looking forward to your Kiwi line of cups. If they're anything like your previous cups I know you'll do well with them.

I'm curious. You don't have to answer if you don't want to(or not allowed to talk details). Will you be spinning the Gazzos for Penguin?
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jun 18, 2006 11:51AM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-18 11:21, garyanimal wrote:
I'll be back in the cup biz next year. I'm going to redesign all my cups and start again with some new Kiwi stamp in them to mark my move to NZ.
Gazzo cups should be available via penguin soon. My other designs will not be.
Animal
[/quote]
More cups!!! Woo Hoo!!!
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Jun 18, 2006 12:28PM)
Terrific! Glad to know there will be "Animals" of any kind back in the cups and balls world...

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: cfrye (Jun 18, 2006 12:31PM)
I look forward to seeing your new cups, Gary! As with Dave, I'd be interested in hearing how, and where, you're getting on.


Curt
Message: Posted by: StevenKidwell (Jun 18, 2006 04:25PM)
Since this post was started talking about the engraved Sherwood cups, I thought it would be of interest to point out that, at least for a little while, they will be very scarce. Brett is currently out of stock because of the price of silver. I've always been very curious as to what number in the 1000 cup run is he on. I'm also surprised that the gold plated versions are still available, as they were available in smaller numbers- 150 sets I think. I've owned my set of sterling silver engraved cups for a few years now, they are my most prized "magic" possession, I think I have set 72 of 1000.

James Riser has always said it best, and I'm paraphrasing here, "if you want a set, don't wait because they probably won't be available tomorrow." That very thing has happen to me so many times I can't count. "Oh, I'll buy it next time I see it" then I never see it again!

Steve
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 18, 2006 05:06PM)
When you get into the collecting game as late as I did, you learn patience. I have been waiting for two particular sets for a couple of years now. I finally got them.

They will be up in the museum RSN.
Message: Posted by: BSutter (Jun 19, 2006 01:21PM)
Indeed the Sherwood Cups have no equal. I am aware of (2) collections in the U.S.A. that feature one of each style Brett offers, one of these collections also features at least one of Brett's Chop Cups.

I have:
Smooth Silver 3 of 10
Smooth Silver Gold Interior 2 of 10
Smooth Silver All Gold Plated 7 of 10
Silver Engraved 100 of 1000 Brett felt this number significant as our initials are the same.
Silver Engraved With Gold Highlights and Interior 39 of 250
Silver Engraved All Gold Plated 22 of 150
Smooth Brass
Smooth Copper

I'm done bragging, I like my Cups!! :)

Bill Sutter
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 19, 2006 04:15PM)
I have to second that, Bill. Sherwoods are wonderful cups. And Sherwood is a really nice guy -- no BS.

(I meant that in the nicest way possible.)
Message: Posted by: swtrocks (Jun 19, 2006 04:48PM)
Gary, are the Gazzo cups which will be sold by Penguin be small or large top?

Steven
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 19, 2006 05:32PM)
I heard this from the source. Gazzo [i]hates[/i] the small tops!
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 19, 2006 05:38PM)
No wonder. When he started with his PF?DD cups, they had a larger dimple in the bottom. This was gradually closed by Gazzo pounding on them.

Hey, it happens!
Message: Posted by: swtrocks (Jun 19, 2006 06:10PM)
But if Gazzo hated small tops, why did he let Gary Animal associate his name with the first run of the Gazzo street cups?
Message: Posted by: BSutter (Jun 19, 2006 07:57PM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-19 17:15, Bill Palmer wrote:
I have to second that, Bill. Sherwoods are wonderful cups. And Sherwood is a really nice guy -- no BS.

(I meant that in the nicest way possible.)
[/quote]

Since this thread was initiated to speak about Brett Sherwood's Cups I will add the following. When the Smooth Silver (all [3] variations) were initially introduced for sale they had no serial numbers. I had a conversation with Brett during which I asked "why not"? His responce was - "send the Cups back at my expence, I will correct this". This is not the end of the level of dedication Brett has. When I accepted delivery of the "corrected sets" I informed Brett that the engraving was not of the same quality found on the Engraved sets. How did he respond? This man is unbeliveable. He instructed me to send the Cups back a second time for correction at his expence!!!

This man (Brett Sherwood) is the best of the best.
As Bill Palmer states . . . there is no "BS"

Kindest Regards,
Bill Sutter
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 19, 2006 08:36PM)
That's the kind of experience I have had with Brett, myself. As a matter of fact, he and my wife went through an elaborate scheme to keep me in the dark when I asked for a couple of sets of cups for Christmas a while back. I was going to order the cups, myself and suddenly, he was out of them. Didn't know when they would be back in stock. I was pleasantly surprised.

Regarding the "small top Gazzo Cups," Gary might have issued them after taking a look at Gazzo's PF/DD chick cups, which you can see in the museum. Note the similarity in the tops of these cups and the tops of the first type of Gazzo cups. Then go down the page to the brass set of PF/DD chick cups. These have the same shape that Gazzo's original set of copper chick cups had.

Gary's cups are made for rough treatment. The PF/DD cups really weren't.
Message: Posted by: James Kernen (Jun 19, 2006 09:26PM)
Not only do I agree with everything Bill and Bill have said about Brett, but people have to realize that the cups are not even his main business.. In addition to bringing these great cups to magicians, he is performing too.. I personally have to also recognize his wife Lesley, who equals his level of service and has been totally great to deal with when Brett was on various cruise ships working......By the way, Brett was also emailing me from his various ships while orders were being worked on.... I highly recommend the Sherwood's (and their cups).
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 19, 2006 09:58PM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-19 19:10, swtrocks wrote:
But if Gazzo hated small tops, why did he let Gary Animal associate his name with the first run of the Gazzo street cups?
[/quote]
I have friends on both sides of the story, so the details are better told by someone else, if at all.

The wide top is Gazzo's preferred design, and the design was modified but he didn't like the results. When he started selling them himself is probably when the design change back, along with the re-spins that were temporarily available to "correct" the shape.

Of all Gary Animal's cups, only one of them is a true "Gazzo." The others are better described as "Gazzo style with modifications" or by their proper names; Super Animals, Animals, Babes, Loves, etc...
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 19, 2006 10:17PM)
Gazzo now has a set of the Tall Animal cups which are the same ID as the Gazzo cups, but taller. They also have the larger bottom which he prefers.
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Jun 20, 2006 12:31AM)
Yes, I can confirm Dave's assertion that Gazzo was CLEAR about his preference for the larger surface on the bottom of his cups! Given his routine and the nature of his loads, this makes perfect sense.

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Jun 25, 2006 11:17PM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-20 01:31, flimnar wrote:
Yes, I can confirm Dave's assertion that Gazzo was CLEAR about his preference for the larger surface on the bottom of his cups! Given his routine and the nature of his loads, this makes perfect sense.

Flimnar
[/quote]
Ah Hell, I thought that was the top of the cup :)
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 26, 2006 09:52AM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-26 00:17, Mad Jake wrote:
Ah Hell, I thought that was the top of the cup :)
[/quote]

Only to magicians ;)
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Jun 26, 2006 10:13PM)
Ouch, my mistake! Someone has egg on his face, and his name is me! Does this mean I have to go to Cups and Balls Summer School? :)

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: RiffRaff (Jun 30, 2006 03:43PM)
In the Ammar book the side opposite to the mouth of the cup is referred to as the top.
In the C&B Museum the side opposite to the mouth of the cup is referred to as the bottom.

Why does Gazzo prefer the wider dimple?
Message: Posted by: Ragiv (Jun 30, 2006 04:40PM)
Seeing Cups like those really makes me want to become a Cup spinner ;)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 30, 2006 05:03PM)
[quote]
On 2006-06-30 16:43, RiffRaff wrote:
In the Ammar book the side opposite to the mouth of the cup is referred to as the top.
In the C&B Museum the side opposite to the mouth of the cup is referred to as the bottom.
[/quote]

The very first reference to the shape of a cup in print is in [i]Hocus Pocus, Jr.[/i] -- "These cups must all be of one size and the bottom of each of them must be set a little within the cup...." I'm not saying that Mike is wrong in his definition. Both of us chose to define our terms right at the beginning of our presentations. He defines the bottom as the top, admitting that to the rest of the world (other than magicians), this would be the bottom, but his definition is for consistency in the text.

I'm taking my definition from the earliest one that I could find.

[quote]
Why does Gazzo prefer the wider dimple?
[/quote]

Probably because you can do a three ball display on top of the cup with the larger dimple.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jun 30, 2006 05:31PM)
On 2006-06-30 18:03, Bill Palmer wrote:
[quote]
On 2006-06-30 16:43, RiffRaff wrote:
[quote]
Why does Gazzo prefer the wider dimple?
[/quote]

Probably because you can do a three ball display on top of the cup with the larger dimple.
[/quote]

That's odd, because in his standard routine he doesn't even do a three ball display on top of the cup. I think he said once he just liked the "look" of the jumbo load on top of the wider tops. Also, with the single ball it has a tendency to stay better if it has a bigger surface to roll around on without falling.

I had that problem with my Super Animals not having a big enough dimple to support his soccer balls. (which as Flimnar can attest, prompted a rather heated discussion at his last master class) My solution was to use my own Monkey Fist balls which resisted rolling. It's also why I don't need a rim on my table.(Yet another touchy subject with him during that same class)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jun 30, 2006 06:56PM)
I know he doesn't. It could also be because he used to use the PF/DD chick cups and he likes the way it looked.
Message: Posted by: flimnar (Jul 1, 2006 12:45AM)
Yes, a lively exchange indeed, Dave! Do you still have the scorch marks on that table? I use the soccer balls sometimes, but I was fortunate enough to get a set of Dave's monkey fist balls when he was making them as well and have really enjoyed using them.

Flimnar
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 5, 2006 12:30PM)
With the FIFA insanity going on, I could not find any small footballs in Germany while I was there. The only ones I could find were erasers, and they didn't look right.

When I got back, I found some at Wal-Mart among the party favors.
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Jul 7, 2006 07:46PM)
Re : The Sherwood silver cups. Would you actally use these regularly (practice sessions + performances) or just keep them on the shelf to preserve their "collector quality"? Silver, I know, is pretty soft and it wouldn't take much to bang them up.

Fortasse
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 7, 2006 09:26PM)
I got the copper and the brass ones to practice with. If the occasion called for it, I would take out the engraved silver cups for a walkaround gig.
Message: Posted by: BSutter (Jul 10, 2006 08:18AM)
The Sherwood Cups were created to work with. At the proper event I will use any of the sets I own. I will add that the tools (Cups) deserve to be utilized in a respectful manner.

Bill Sutter
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 10, 2006 10:45AM)
Well put. Brett ecen states in the sheet that is furnished with the cups what moves may or may not be suitable with the cups.
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Jul 10, 2006 08:30PM)
I guess that rules out any "cup-through-cup" penetration!

Fortasse
Message: Posted by: pepka (Jul 10, 2006 09:44PM)
I used to collect cups, at one point I had 9 sets, but have only used 2 for the last few years. Riser standard cups for outside gigs and at the bar. When hired for a formal close-up show, I'm normally in a tux, in that case it's my silver engraved Sherwoods. They always get gasps. Anyone know when his wand will be available, I believe it's been in the works for a few years now.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 10, 2006 10:06PM)
[quote]
On 2006-07-10 21:30, fortasse wrote:
I guess that rules out any "cup-through-cup" penetration!

Fortasse


[/quote]

Actually, if you do it right, the penetration won't hurt the cups, but it is still scary!!
Message: Posted by: swtrocks (Jul 11, 2006 12:40AM)
But if you do the move a lot, won't there at least be SOME damage to the shoulder bead from the force of the cups colliding? Just a thought.
Message: Posted by: BSutter (Jul 11, 2006 07:42AM)
No damage will result provided that the move is executed properly, under proper execution very little force is transmitted between articles. The grip is all important. PMP (Practice Makes Perfect). Make sure to provide a secure landing zone.

Bill Sutter
Message: Posted by: pepka (Jul 11, 2006 08:37AM)
The one move I do very often with these cups is the centrifugal move. Where there is a ball under a cup and you very quickly stack it on another cup, showing that the cup is empty. I had problems doing this move with other cups but with the sherwoods, it flows beautifully.
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Jul 11, 2006 08:40AM)
Johnny Thompson does the 'cup through cup' penetration with his engraved Paul Fox cups, doesn't he?

Richard
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jul 11, 2006 12:32PM)
Yes, but they are NOT PF cups... he had a set of Charlie Miller cups plated and a friend did the engravng for him as a gift.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 11, 2006 02:11PM)
Those Charlie Miller cups will take a real beating.
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Jul 11, 2006 03:57PM)
Is there any risk that the silver plating will suffer - and is there a difference in the durability of (let's say) silver plated vs chromed cups? Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Mobius303 (Jul 11, 2006 04:34PM)
Taliesin you are correct. On the video Comercial Classics of Magic #4 he uses Engraved Paul Fox cups with a gold wash in side the cups. They are very beautiful cups.
When he does the teach in he uses the fox cups too. Though on the cover of the video/DVD box he is shown with Miller engraved cups with a gold wash.
Great routine too.
Does anyone know about his PF style cups that are engraved? I knoiw I would like to know more about them.

I have used both silver plated and chromed cups and have not had a durability problem with either.
Mobius
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Jul 11, 2006 10:31PM)
Pete is absolutely correct : you can see Johnny Thompson's silver-plated Charlie Miller cups on the Stevens Emporium Cups & Balls DVD (Greater Magic Video Library Teach-In Series). One of the features on this DVD is a cups and balls demonstration by Charlie Miller using Johnny Thompson's cups. Thompson himself is the host for this demonstration and he describes the cups in some detail. On this occasion at least, Thompson's cups were the Charlie Miller cups, not PF cups. No question about it. By the way this is great DVD to add to your collection if you don't have it already.

Fortasse
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 12, 2006 01:37AM)
[quote]
On 2006-07-11 01:40, swtrocks wrote:
But if you do the move a lot, won't there at least be SOME damage to the shoulder bead from the force of the cups colliding? Just a thought.
[/quote]

You can do it with minimal collision of the cups. It takes a lot of practice, but it can be done. In fact, you can do it with NO collision of the cups.
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Jul 12, 2006 06:49AM)
[quote]
On 2006-07-11 23:31, fortasse wrote:
Pete is absolutely correct : you can see Johnny Thompson's silver-plated Charlie Miller cups on the Stevens Emporium Cups & Balls DVD (Greater Magic Video Library Teach-In Series). One of the features on this DVD is a cups and balls demonstration by Charlie Miller using Johnny Thompson's cups. Thompson himself is the host for this demonstration and he describes the cups in some detail. On this occasion at least, Thompson's cups were the Charlie Miller cups, not PF cups. No question about it. By the way this is great DVD to add to your collection if you don't have it already.

Fortasse
[/quote]


Happily, everyone's right! There are two seperate sets of cups. He uses the silver Charlie Miller cups in the GMVL Teach-In tape but uses Paul Fox-style engraved silver cups in the Commercial Classics DVD. :)

Still, it's interesting that those engraved silver PF cups haven't been commented on previously. As Mobius said, they look fantastic with the gold wash on the inside.

Richard
Message: Posted by: garyanimal (Jul 29, 2006 01:15PM)
"But if Gazzo hated small tops, why did he let Gary Animal associate his name with the first run of the Gazzo street cups?"
Gazzo allowed me to use his name because I'm a mate and he assumed I'd make them with big tops. I didn't and he called me an idiot and beat the crap out of me. I then made some more with big tops and he showered me with slobber like a rabid mutt. Oh to be loved by Gazzo. After I got clean I made some more with small tops because I like them. Gazzo kicked the **** out of me again.
News
NZ . In uk at present, going to nz again in sept. Gotta buy a house and get settled. Nz cups a bit down the road yet.
I do have Some gazzos and animals and babes in storage and will ebay them when I get my stuff back.

Will be doing my own street performing DVD later and that should show everyone how not to do the cups.
What else

Oh I might come work usa and canada one summer before I get to old- sick of uk. Will need love and support people. (that's accom and a few birds)
Gary
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jul 29, 2006 01:21PM)
I can't help you with the birds (we do have some in bird cages, but probably not what you're looking for) but if you ever make it to Las Vegas, we have a place for you. We sterilized it pretty thoroughly after Gazzo left, so you shouldn't have too much to worry about.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 29, 2006 02:36PM)
If you are coming to Houston, let me know.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 1, 2006 11:53AM)
Birds, not the feathered with wings type... he's referring to "babes" (not the cup kind either) :coffee:
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 1, 2006 11:30PM)
We have a lot of birds that are not feathered. They look silly as heck.
Message: Posted by: cfrye (Aug 2, 2006 01:16AM)
Plenty of birds with feathers in Vegas.


Curt
Message: Posted by: kvanliewpe (Aug 3, 2006 02:37PM)
Good Afternnon
I'm new to the site like a kid in a candy store and typically so excited reviewing the vast amount of information that I forget to write down links that I find while surfing. There was a site I visited a few weeks ago that sold top quality mini chop cups. They also sold a very decorative purse frame and specialized in chop cups.
I've checked every site listed in threads from my search to no avail. Can anyone help me recall this site because I'm interested in buying both items and can't locate web address.
I would greatly appreciate the assistance.
Ken
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 3, 2006 02:44PM)
Do you remember which chop cups they sold? That would help.

Try the Trickery. http://www.thetrickery.com

You can get fancy purse frames at Michael's or Hobby Lobby.
Message: Posted by: kvanliewpe (Aug 3, 2006 10:55PM)
They were mini cups. I don't believe they sold C&B, they were exclusive on the mini chop cup. THe purse frame was part of the routine. They were very expensive and top shelf.

Michael's or Hobby Lobby??
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 4, 2006 01:09AM)
They carry purse frames for people who want to make fancy purses. They are crafts shops.

Do you know what country these people were in?

I've got just about every current chop cup known to man, and your description is not ringing any bells.
Message: Posted by: kvanliewpe (Aug 4, 2006 08:56AM)
Bill
I appreciate your thoughts. I'll keep searching and will find it. It may have been an illusion!
Do you happen to have a link for the fancy purse frames.
Ken
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 4, 2006 10:24AM)
No, but I think the ones I got were called "Victorian Purse Frames." You might want to google that term.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 4, 2006 12:30PM)
You can find hundreds of purse frames by going google
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Aug 7, 2006 08:55AM)
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On 2006-04-14 20:19, Gary Dayton wrote:
I mean, what's a Gazzo?!! :) :)
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Here's one that's spelled differently: http://bedrock.deadsquid.com/information/profiles/index.php?profile=gazoo

LMAO!!!

Or you could find the magician in question here: http://www.gazzoshow.com/
Message: Posted by: kvanliewpe (Aug 10, 2006 02:40PM)
Bill
I found some great purse frames.
Thanks
Ken
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 10, 2006 03:57PM)
Excellent!!!!!